Braves Acquire Tommy Milone

[clvclv]

Doubt it’s two of those guys.

Maybe, maybe not - those are the guys significantly down the list...

Hamels
Folty
Wright
Touki
Wilson
Chacin
Davidson
Weigel
De La Cruz
Muller
Shuster
Tarnok
Vodnik
Kalich
Elder

are probably the 15 names being withheld from deals for anything not approaching an "impact arm". You'd like to keep everyone from the list I mentioned, but they're likely not important enough that they're not considered "expendable" to an extent. Everyone I mentioned on that list are guys that are 2-3 years away from even being considered for the roster as pen pieces - much less SPs.

 

[clvclv]

Bc it’s two guys.

I hope they are two nobodies

Price of pitching might be very high

If it was one ptbnl I would not have blinked

For this type of guy we are talking 5 starts, maybe 25 innings

You were one of those that was ready to jump off the ledge last year when AA gave up Bruce Zimmerman, Evan Phillips, Brett Cumberland, and Jean Carlos Encarnacion for Gausman and O'Day, right?

The fact that names like those happen to be Braves prospects doesn't make them anything other than career minor leaguers.

 

[Heyward]

You were one of those that was ready to jump off the ledge last year when AA gave up Bruce Zimmerman, Evan Phillips, Brett Cumberland, and Jean Carlos Encarnacion for Gausman and O'Day, right?

The fact that names like those happen to be Braves prospects doesn't make them anything other than career minor leaguers.

Braves are contenders now, so they're gonna do trades. You just hope none of the guys they end up trading bite them in the ass.

 

[UNCBlue012]

Milone is starting tonight

 

[clvclv]

Braves are contenders now, so they're gonna do trades. You just hope none of the guys they end up trading bite them in the ass.

Braves were contenders at the deadline last year too - what's your point?

 

[Heyward]

Braves were contenders at the deadline last year too - what's your point?

I meant going forward they;ll be in on trades. So you just hope the guys they give up dont hurt down the line.

 

[bravesfanforlife88]

DoB just said Milone is starting tonight for us

 

[50PoundHead]

Does not have to be from the 60-Man pool - any and all players not in the pool can be PTBNLs...

"Atlanta will send two prospects, neither of whom is in the Braves’ 60-man player pool, to Baltimore, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post (via Twitter)."

When was that clarified? If this is the case, I can't believe we're not going to see about 50 PTBNLs by 4 PM tomorrow.

 

[Carp]

He’s averaged less than 5 innings a start. Not exactly an innings eater.

Do we know how many SP this year are averaging more than that? Just from observation it seems like an odd year with lots of teams going to the pen early.

 

[clvclv]

When was that clarified? If this is the case, I can't believe we're not going to see about 50 PTBNLs by 4 PM tomorrow.

Has been the case the entire time - anyone not on the 60 CAN be traded - they're just not likely to make any impact in 2020. If those players are PTBNLs, the receiving team doesn't HAVE TO add them to their 60-Man pool.

It's just like players being traded after they had been selected in that year's draft. Most of the players in the pool were/are guys that teams saw as someone they might use this season (if the sky fell in some cases for the Braves like Waters/Ball/Shewmake/Muller/Grissom/Langeliers, etc.) - guys that they didn't want to lose this summer's worth of development time were added in the hope that there would be no need to add them to their 40-Man Roster, but many that were "close enough" that they might be able to help in a pinch if the team's hand was forced like in the Marlins' case.

AA rolled the dice with a lot of guys - you can't remove a prospect from your 60-Man pool without exposing him to waivers. If we happen to have a breakout like the Marlins did he won't have any choice other than to add guys like Waters/Shewmake/Ball/Muller etc. to the 40-Man Roster so we have enough players to play the games. If that happens, we'll sure wish that the guys in Gwinnett were the Kozma/Kazmir/Unroe/Ortegas of the world.

 

[Carp]

Does anyone believe all that?

I don’t see folty and hamels

This seems like a guy you give 5 starts to and skip in the playoffs.

2 humans for that?

He's probably our 2nd best SP now unless Anderson is legit ready to be a mid rotation anchor. Unless Hamels and/or Folty come back later in the season, he's your number 2 starter come playoff time.

 

[clvclv]

He's probably our 2nd best SP now unless Anderson is legit ready to be a mid rotation anchor. Unless Hamels and/or Folty come back later in the season, he's your number 2 starter come playoff time.

This is what "improving around the edges" looks like - particularly in a crazy year like this.

Sucks for the fans, but it's awfully tough to criticize AA for treading lightly right now.

 

[clvclv]

Does anyone believe all that?

I don’t see folty and hamels

This seems like a guy you give 5 starts to and skip in the playoffs.

2 humans for that?

https://twitter.com/DOBrienATL/status/1300123091004252162?s=20

 

[msstate7]

https://twitter.com/DOBrienATL/status/1300123091004252162?s=20

Hamels and albies would be a tremendous boost

 

[Carp]

Bc it’s two guys.

I hope they are two nobodies

Price of pitching might be very high

If it was one ptbnl I would not have blinked

For this type of guy we are talking 5 starts, maybe 25 innings

Plus playoffs. Please realize we had only 1 reliable starter prior to this trade.

 

[Heyward]

Hamels and albies would be a tremendous boost

Albies seems a week or so away maybe sooner. Hamels we badly need. Although no idea what to expect from him if he does return.

 

[clvclv]

I meant going forward they;ll be in on trades. So you just hope the guys they give up dont hurt down the line.

Another thing to remember - two entire teams will be disappearing from the Braves' system starting next season. There will only be so many places to put players who are YEARS away from making any kind of impact moving forward. There won't be tons of room to hide "projects" away - a lot of kids are going to have to play in indy leagues if they're fringe guys that need a lot of things to go right for them to have a chance to make it in the first place.

Guys like Owens/Estes/Devito/Vines fit that description.

 

[clvclv]

Albies seems a week or so away maybe sooner. Hamels we badly need. Although no idea what to expect from him if he does return.

3 innings sometime next week. Then 4 the week after that.

Could be stretched out enough to give you 6 by the time the playoffs start.

 

[Southcack77]

Another thing to remember - two entire teams will be disappearing from the Braves' system starting next season. There will only be so many places to put players who are YEARS away from making any kind of impact moving forward. There won't be tons of room to hide "projects" away - a lot of kids are going to have to play in indy leagues if they're fringe guys that need a lot of things to go right for them to have a chance to make it in the first place.

Guys like Owens/Estes/Devito/Vines fit that description.

This is not a concern. There are plenty of non-prospects in the minors and they will be the cuts.

 

[Enscheff]

3 innings sometime next week. Then 4 the week after that.

Could be stretched out enough to give you 6 by the time the playoffs start.

The Braves could essentially allow Hamels to treat September as his spring training. His first appearance could be 2 innings just like his first ST appearance would be. At this point, Cole Hamels rolling out of bed throwing fastballs and changes for 2 innings is better than any other SP not named Fried.

It doesn’t really matter if he gets injured at this point in practice games or real games. May as well get his contributions before he gets hurt again.