Braves agree to 3-year extension with Chris Johnson

zitothebrave said:
InWren's defense he really didn't have much time to do anything in Baltimore. He made mistakes there for sure. But Wren didn't have a long time in Baltimore. Angelos is a grade A twat.
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Good point on Angelos and maybe Wren felt he was under the gun, but I look at this deal as just tying up an average player for another three years.

In his defense, there currently isn't a solid major league prospect playing 3B in the Braves' minor league system. Salcedo has been challenged and it doesn't look like he's overwhelmed at AAA, but he's not flourishing either.
 
I'll support, condemn, or be indifferent about this deal when we know the dollar amounts. If it's friendly like a 3/15-18 I will love it, Johnson will be easy to move when we need to at that cost. If it's 3/30 I'll be pissed cause that's money that can go to Jason, Justin, Minor, etc.
 
50PoundHead said:
He's a support level player at best and we've got other needs. Unless there is money around that we don't know about, the budget is getting awfully tight. It is started to resemble what he did in Baltimore.
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Johnson is the type of guy that you take advantage of and then the second he starts making multiple million, you send packing. I don't get the point of tying him up during his arby years because you lose some flexibility. If Johnson reverts to his career numbers, then you are paying millions for a guy that easily replaced.
 
gilesfan said:
Johnson is the type of guy that you take advantage of and then the second he starts making multiple million, you send packing. I don't get the point of tying him up during his arby years because you lose some flexibility. If Johnson reverts to his career numbers, then you are paying millions for a guy that easily replaced.
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You've said what I was trying to say very concisely. Just because there isn't a genuine 3B prospect in the system, it doesn't mean you should simply tie up the guy currently playing the position for multiple years.
 
50PoundHead said:
Good point on Angelos and maybe Wren felt he was under the gun, but I look at this deal as just tying up an average player for another three years.

In his defense, there currently isn't a solid major league prospect playing 3B in the Braves' minor league system. Salcedo has been challenged and it doesn't look like he's overwhelmed at AAA, but he's not flourishing either.
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I think CJ is a little better than that. As others have said, if the money is right, I like the move.
 
50PoundHead said:
He's a support level player at best and we've got other needs. Unless there is money around that we don't know about, the budget is getting awfully tight. It is started to resemble what he did in Baltimore.
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I don't judge Frank Wren on anything he did in Baltimore. You can't polish a turd.
 
I like Johnson but there was no need for an extension. He's an average player at best. He wasn't a free agent for a couple more years.
 
If CJ came to Wren and said he loves playing here and wants to take below market value then there is nothing wrong with this.
 
Johnson is league average to a little above. If Fredi ever finds a place in the lineup for him on a consistent basis, it would help. And remember, his agent/agents are the same group that reps Freeman, Heyward and Kimbrel. They are not known to be hard headed.

I would not be surprised to see Gattis as the next extension. Getting ready for 2017.
 
I dont have a problem with this. We could do so much worse than Johnson at 3b. This is really only a 1 year extension with a team option for a second. I don't see any 3b prospect who was a serious option in the next 3 years to take over 3b. Peraza looks to be the 2b of the future. I would guess the deal is 7-8 mill per year which isn't that bad considering the ridiculous inflation going on in baseball. Worst case Johnson will be a hell of a lot easier to dump than Uggla is right now.

I also like having players on the team that want to be here. That's an intangible that I think helps more than people think. I think that had a lot to do with Bobby's succes over the years.

Edit - plus something just feels right about having a CJ at 3b.
 
cajunrevenge said:
I also like having players on the team that want to be here. That's an intangible that I think helps more than people think. I think that had a lot to do with Bobby's succes over the years.
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Are you saying players want to stay here and play for Fredi? :Gasp:
 
cajunrevenge said:
I dont have a problem with this. We could do so much worse than Johnson at 3b. This is really only a 1 year extension with a team option for a second. I don't see any 3b prospect who was a serious option in the next 3 years to take over 3b. Peraza looks to be the 2b of the future. I would guess the deal is 7-8 mill per year which isn't that bad considering the ridiculous inflation going on in baseball. Worst case Johnson will be a hell of a lot easier to dump than Uggla is right now.

I also like having players on the team that want to be here. That's an intangible that I think helps more than people think. I think that had a lot to do with Bobby's succes over the years.
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You've just described the mediocre Minnesota Twins.
 
50PoundHead said:
Unless there is money around that we don't know about.
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I'm beginning to think this is the case. I think we're getting more money out of that stadium than we thought we would. I also can't help but wonder if moving out of the city of Atlanta has somehow given us a way out of our tv deal.

If the dollar amount is reasonable then I won't grump about this deal too much.
 
Liberty Media CEO Greg Maffei scoffed when a Wall Street analyst recently suggested to him that the Braves are worth about $650 million, which is $200 million more than the company paid for the team seven years ago.

"Oh, that's way light," Maffei replied.

He added: "If you've got another Braves to sell me at 650, I'll buy them, let's put it that way."

"Not only were they part of a tax-oriented transaction with Time Warner," Maffei said, "but the reality is two big upticks -- a re-cut TV deal for a bunch of reasons and a new stadium -- both are very helpful in increasing value for the Braves."

The Braves' revenue increased by $36 million to $261 million last year, following a $17 million increase in 2012, according to Liberty's financial filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The Braves' operating income (revenue minus operating expenses) before depreciation, amortization and certain special charges increased by $20 million to $42 million last year, according to the filings.
 
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