Braves Meeting with Lester

Getting things back to Lester.

I'll be surprised if he winds up signing with the Braves, but I've been surprised before. You can't forget that he lives near Atlanta. He's at the stage of his career where he's won a couple World Series rings and has made a lot of money. Could he be looking at possibly moving close to home for family and comfort reasons? It's possible. You have to examine that possibility. Not saying it will happen, but the possibility is there.

And if Lester does in fact become a Brave, then we will have something else happening fairly quickly. It could very well be Minor going in a deal with one of the Upton boys.
 
Per DOB, Heyward says they never talked to his agent.

He said the team never sat down with he and his agent to talk about a long-term extension after late 2012. It's not necessarily the same. Haven't seen any quote where he unequivocally denied agent contact in the past two years, and his agent and the Braves could have had unproductive conversations without Jason's knowledge.

Or not. Either way the agent would seem to be the one to ask.
 
What are you referring to here? Chipper saying that Jason wasn't a hard worker, or whatever that issue was?

Sorry, that camw across wrong. Meant that to show various reports and common sense suggest otherwise on the subject of the extension, not on the nature of Jason character.
 
Lester has not met with them yet, I think he is doing that next week. I wonder if that means they are worried about their competition. Not per say us, but may the Cubs and a few other teams
 
If you could only extent one of Lester and Justin Upton for a market value contract, which would you go with.
 
Money aside, I would think he would love being in the NL. Atlanta is going to be a better pitcher's park than Wrigley. You never know which way the wind blows there. And, as has been mentioned, he lives in Atlanta. The new park would be pretty exciting too. I really think that if we are going to meet with him, we're serious!
 
The -itis part was a joke, mostly.

You are an exceptional poster with a long history of rationality. I have no reason to think you are lying. However, that doesn't mean I'm just gonna take your word for it.

And I know you are as well. To that end, without getting too much in the way of specifics, see my responses to each of your queries below.

(a) This is the internet (b) I have no idea who you are (c) I have no idea what connection you have to the front office (d) I have no idea how many people are between your connection and the actual people involved in this story[/QUOTE said:
I too acknowledge that this is the internet and I'm sure that colors your judgment as to what a "random poster" is saying on a forum (and perhaps rightfully so). Some long-standing posters here know my source and know that I'm legitimate, but I can't convince anyone of that nor will I do so. Just in case you are wondering, however, my source is very, very high up in the FO-- not a marketing intern. In addition, my firm is working on the stadium financing transaction- but that isn't why I am connected to said person (I have known him personally for more than 13 years).

(e) You yourself previously stated "[I said:
apparently they are apart on both years and AAV by a "significant margin"-- I have no details as to what that means... but I can tell you with Stanton projected to make over $300M, Casey has a good case for Jason at or slightly above $200 and the Braves aren't comfortable at that price point.[/I]" But now you are saying that you know that he was asking for $240-250m? That doesn't mean you are lying but it leads me to believe you might be making some assumptions based on limited info.

I'm not making any assumptions. The point I was trying to make was that I know what the ask was, but I did not know the limits to what the Braves were willing to go to ultimately. I know it was north of Freeman's value but obviously far less than what Excel believed Heyward's true value to be. I do now have an idea of what the ceiling the Braves would have offered was (my conversations aren't static in a point in time, mind you)-- and I don't see how they could have bridged that gap without going far beyond their comfort level. There was also discussion of an opt out- something Hart and JS do not like (much like the no-trade clause).

Come to your own conclusions. I do not - for one moment - doubt my source's information but obviously, it's the internet and discount that for what it's worth. I won't get my feelings hurt. But I'd also ask you to take into account the fact that I'm not a fly by night poster- what premium multiple you ascribe to that is not something I can control, however.

Ultimately said:
Like I said previously, I'm not a front office apologist. Just because I have a friend in the FO doesn't mean I'm not a fan first and foremost and that I didn't cringe when I learned of the trade. However knowing some of the details helped me understand that the FO believes its better for the team in the long run to go this route and I can't say I'm more experienced than they are. I am saddened that Jason is no longer a Brave but I'm also looking forward to seeing how the FO believes it can add value back - in different ways - while continuing to operate within their own fiscal comfort zone.
 
That would be something if we signed Lester at a nice discount. The top 4 in the rotation would be set for the next four years.

Lester, Teheran, Miller, Wood

Not too shabby at all right there. And at not a bad price depending on what we would offer Lester. Plus you've suddenly got two talented young pitchers in the minors to keep a close eye on.
 
That would be something if we signed Lester at a nice discount. The top 4 in the rotation would be set for the next four years.

Lester, Teheran, Miller, Wood

Not too shabby at all right there. And at not a bad price depending on what we would offer Lester. Plus you've suddenly got two talented young pitchers in the minors to keep a close eye on.

And Lester would be great for Wood.
 
That would be something if we signed Lester at a nice discount. The top 4 in the rotation would be set for the next four years.

Lester, Teheran, Miller, Wood

Not too shabby at all right there. And at not a bad price depending on what we would offer Lester. Plus you've suddenly got two talented young pitchers in the minors to keep a close eye on.

It's pretty exciting to think about. I was trying to come up with things we could do right now just to plug holes for the upcoming season IF we do go after Lester and get him. Note: I'm happy with her rotation as it is, but I'm not against getting Lester if he will take a little discount.

Lester (L)

Teheran

Minor (L)

Miller

Wood (L)

I'd like to trade for a Aoki type of guy. You guys know how onboard I'd be with that. If Peraza was ready, we could go that route as well.

Aoki LF

Peraza 2B

Freeman 1B

JUP RF

Gattis C

C. Johnson 3B

BJ CF

Simba SS

This isn't the greatest lineups in the world, but it works with a rotation like that. We won't win 100 games, but 85-88 COULD happen. Maybe even improve more.

We can either take some of our left money to try and fix up the bench. A solid rotation, bullpen and bench WILL win us games.
 
If you could only extent one of Lester and Justin Upton for a market value contract, which would you go with.

Justin Upton. We have a severe lack of offense on this team. Our starting pitching is down on the list of my worries.
 
That would be something if we signed Lester at a nice discount. The top 4 in the rotation would be set for the next four years.

Lester, Teheran, Miller, Wood

Not too shabby at all right there. And at not a bad price depending on what we would offer Lester. Plus you've suddenly got two talented young pitchers in the minors to keep a close eye on.

That rotation could win soon, maybe not 2015...but with some tweaks that could be a base for a legit contender in the very near future.
 
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