Braves, On Pace For Record 134 Losses, Cling To Faith In Future

LOL, what a fluff piece by JS's boy Nigtengale, surprising? No!

and LOL at this: ‘Don’t tell me about the pain, show me the baby?’

“Well, we can’t show you the baby right now, but we sure are feeling the pain.”

Basically all it's saying is....Coppy saying..."don't question us, we know what we are doing, and you don't so that's that. Understand because my homeboy JS agrees."
 
"We understand the concern,” Schuerholz said. “But you have to look at this over 25 years. We lived it. We know how to do it. And we will do it again.

“I’ll be honest as I’m sitting here, I feel now very much like I felt in the spring of ’91 when we started winning. That’s how enthused and energized I am about the future of the organization.

“I tell people, ‘Just relax. Have a glass of tea. Have a glass of wine. We haven’t forgotten how to build teams.’

“Really, we’ll be all right.”

that rubs me the wrong ****ing way
 
goldfly said:
"We understand the concern,” Schuerholz said. “But you have to look at this over 25 years. We lived it. We know how to do it. And we will do it again.

“I’ll be honest as I’m sitting here, I feel now very much like I felt in the spring of ’91 when we started winning. That’s how enthused and energized I am about the future of the organization.

“I tell people, ‘Just relax. Have a glass of tea. Have a glass of wine. We haven’t forgotten how to build teams.’

“Really, we’ll be all right.”

that rubs me the wrong ****ing way
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There's definitely some arrogance in those comments, but I also want to hear confidence from my FO. I don't want them saying things like, 'Well, we'll see how it goes, I hope we've made the right decisions.'

He's basically just saying that this takes time. I honestly don't really understand all the vitriol coming from the fan base. It seems like we came to an understanding in the offseason that this was going to be a bad year but it was worth it and eventually, we would be good again. But now that we're actually bad, the rebuild is a disaster?
 
goldfly said:
"We understand the concern,” Schuerholz said. “But you have to look at this over 25 years. We lived it. We know how to do it. And we will do it again.

“I’ll be honest as I’m sitting here, I feel now very much like I felt in the spring of ’91 when we started winning. That’s how enthused and energized I am about the future of the organization.

“I tell people, ‘Just relax. Have a glass of tea. Have a glass of wine. We haven’t forgotten how to build teams.’

“Really, we’ll be all right.”

that rubs me the wrong ****ing way
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For some reason, my brain combined that together and read it as "euthanized". :suprise:
 
I don't mind the rebuild. At all.

I didn't particularly care for the all-or-nothing approach at the plate we had during Wren's final few years. Streaky hitting by JUpton to get up to 30+ homers. He had, what, a great April and a great August, and everything else sucked royally. BUpton sucked. Duggly sucked. JHey could never put together a full season at the plate. I was just tired of it. I was most sorry to see Kimbrel go, but understood it.

I'm hopeful again about the kind of hitters hopefully coming up soon, though I would like to definitely see some kind of pop out of someone. Need a home run threat to put that fear in pitchers and help the other batters around him. No way we'll lose 134 games. I actually think we'll having a winning month before the season's done (August or September) between a new interim manager and top prospect call-ups. All we need are these 1-run losses to turn into 1-run wins, and the confidence and enthusiasm in the clubhouse will be contagious among those kids.
 
Whats the difference between losing 110 games and losing 120 games? Its not like we even have a big lead for the #1 pick. If you cant stand to watch this **** then you should be thankful for this rebuilding because the way **** was headed we were going to go thru an Astros type rebuild where you start with a **** farm system and nothing of value to trade for any meaningful prospects. We might not make the playoffs in 2017 but we will atleast be a respectable team again by that point.
 
The all-time loss record would be a fitting turn of the karmic wheel following the decision to unceremoniously tear the team out of Atlanta and dump it in the suburbs.
 
Allow me to translate.

"We understand the concern,” Schuerholz said. Look, you're a bunch of ****ing idiots who pay $40 a seat to watch this ****. We're smarter than you.

“But you have to look at this over 25 years. Looking too close might make you vomit, and that's a good time to pull back and think big picture. Like us. What's the difference between 110 and 120 losses?

We lived it. It's fun living in the past. I've got Glavine, Maddux and Smoltz' old pictures on my wall. We know how to do it. What you do is, you get lucky as ****ing hell with a few players and have Ted Turner's wallet. And we will do it again. Put it this way: it could happen again. Keep in mind, I'm 75 years old and my wife just forced me to go get tested for Alzheimer's.

“I’ll be honest as I’m sitting here, I'm lying.I feel now very much like I felt in the spring of ’91 dyspeptic, with an issue of GQ out so I could pick my next set of suspenders. when we started winning. Beats me how it happened. I guess that offensive spark from Rafael Belliard and Mark Lemke. That’s how enthused and energized I am about the future of the organization.when I get hopped up on those blue pills the doc gives me, I get jazzed about anything.

“I tell people, ‘Just relax. Have a glass of tea. Have a glass of wine. Burn one. You'll need it to watch this collection of stiffs for the next half decade. We haven’t forgotten how to build teams.’It's with out-of-shape, limited 30-something players like Sid Bream and Terry Pendleton. And now Hector Olivera

I'm a genius. Hart's a genius. And little Coppy is our love child.

“Really, we’ll be all right.” "Let's give him the keys to the Porsche. What could go wrong?
 
GovClintonTyree said:
I don't agree with your comments on Wren at all. I think he was a very good GM and handled the spending restraints he was shackled with very well. His free agent/extension signings crapped out, every damn pitcher they developed hurt his arm, and he still had them in the hunt right up until his last year.

And if you ask me if it needed blowing up, I think the answer is "no." Sign one of Heyward or Upton and trade the other or take your QO draft pick. Keep developing Wood and Minor, Teheran and Sims.

Yes, hopefully Coppalella and Hart hit on some of their deals and we can get back over the 40-win plateau, but let's not put this utter debacle of a rebuild on Frank Wren, eh?
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I completely disagree with this. Frank Wren rode on the coattails of what was a strong farm system that was built under JS and the guidance of Roy Clark. That farm system eroded dramatically under Frank Wren. A big reason for this was that Frank ran off some very good scouts in the organization, including Roy Clark. If we had continued the Frank Wren plan, we would be sitting here today with a similar team and a much worse farm system.
 
My biggest issue with this and has been all the garbage that the front office has been spewing about competing and acting like they we're assembling something that would resemble a major league baseball team in the short term, all the while hyping up about building something that is suppose to be great going into the new stadium. Why lie?

Most fans on here, myself included, and die hard fans know that we we're going to stink in 15, and we we're going to stink this year. But we heard the FO mention and act like we we're a few pieces away from contending for something. What would that be? Let the rebuilding process take place, step by step. It might magically take 3 years, it might take 5, who knows how long it may take, but let it flow naturally. I don't get this false hope that the FO has about building something and turning around so quickly.

So what exactly are we doing and what exactly is going on in there? On one hand, I know that we're rebuilding and accumulating young talent, and that some of the moves would be painful to say goodbye to some fan favorites. But then on the other hand, why do we trade a young controllable lefty that has some talent and another young highly thought of infielder for a 30 something unknown? Why is the worst manager of the modern era still in the dugout? Why does the front office during the offseason tought that 15 will never happen again, and act like a few more quality veteran arms will solve all the issues and all will be good when we know it won't. Why does the front office act like Frenchy or garbage like Stubbs are the missing pieces that will put us over the top? How about thinking that Aybar was a missing piece because he was an "upgrade" offensively. We have a right to question what these guys are doing, no. I mean, we all knew that we needed another quality lefty reliever and yet that was neglected even after spring training. And how in the hell does a front office make the mistake of calling up a player to the major league roster that isn't even eligible? It's baffling.

Rebuilding can be painful at first. It has been, but at the same time this should be an exciting time. New players coming up and playing hard, working through mistakes, and developing. Instead we see the same stupid uninspired baseball with our fearless leader looking clueless in the dugout as usual. But JS and the boys are all holier than all and know much more than all of us, just cause they rode the coattails of numerous hall of famers and had Ted Turner's pocketbook to assemble one of the greatest runs in history. I applaud them for what they accomplished, but it's 2016, and not 1995 anymore.

Until we indentify the core, and they perform at the MLB level, then I don't want to hear all of this garbage about competing. Do that first, and build around it, and THEN we can have something. We haven't done that yet. Besides Freeman and Julio, who are they. Albies and Swanson are still unknowns and so are all the young talent pitchers. They don't need to be HOFer's, but what we built in the 90's was done when it was apparent that Glavine, Smoltz, Avery, Justice, Gant and to a lesser extent Blauser and Lemke we're our main guys going forward, and to identifiy and plug the other holes all the while knowing the pipeline was full of guys like Chipper and Klesko that we're close to making an impact. And by the time that's done this time around, Freeman may not be one of those guys and may be more like a Bream than a Justice.
 
All they promised was the 2015 team would be like the girl at the dance that wasn't the prettiest but ended being the most fun to dance with, and that the 2016 team would top that. I don't see any lies.
 
nsacpi said:
That's kind of a personal thing, but for me the 2016 team has been a lot of fun.
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I agree.. love to watch Wisler develop. good to see Folty has the ability to pitch.. Blair has been better than expected for me. Winkler was everything I had hoped..(that wasn't fun though).. Mallex is such a breathe of fresh air (hoping his K rate drops).. JT is rebounding and I know he will command a huge return if we decide to trade him...Viz being Viz..

Aybar/AJ/JJ/EOF/Norris (to an extent)/ Jace/Adonis have not been fun, but I didn't really expect most of those guys to be fun.
 
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