Braves sign Ervin Santana to 1 year 14.1M deal

I think Ervin/Johan also got caught using another guy's birth certificate in order to appear a bit younger, which necessitated the name change more than, "Golly, I want to change my name."
 
MadduxFanII said:
I think Ervin/Johan also got caught using another guy's birth certificate in order to appear a bit younger, which necessitated the name change more than, "Golly, I want to change my name."
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You sure about that?
I don't remember Ervin being one of those guys.
 
MadduxFanII said:
I think Ervin/Johan also got caught using another guy's birth certificate in order to appear a bit younger, which necessitated the name change more than, "Golly, I want to change my name."
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yeezus said:
You sure about that?

I don't remember Ervin being one of those guys.
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Indeed: I hadn't read, and haven't found anything just now, to substantiate that. Source?
 
jpx7 said:
Indeed: I hadn't read, and haven't found anything just now, to substantiate that. Source?
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I don't need a source, punk!

Also, this:

When he signed on September 2, 2000, Ervin Santana was neither Ervin nor 16.

Santana used the birth certificate of a relative to make the Angels think he was younger than he was. It was not an uncommon practice at the time. The name he gave was Johan Quezada Santana, with a date of birth of November 28, 1983. His real name was Ervin Ramon Santana, and he was born on December 12, 1982 — eleven months earlier than he claimed.

The discrepancy was discovered during the winter of 2002-2003, as part of an industry-wide investigation. Some Dominicans were found to be years older than they claimed, so eleven months wasn’t that big a deal.

I saw Ervin pitch for the Angels in fall instructional league on October 5, 2000. It was at the Angels’ old minor league complex, Gene Autry Park, in Mesa, Arizona. If it wasn’t his first start in the U.S., it was one of his first.
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ChapelHillMatt said:
Your right, he hustles all the time.

Oh wait!!!

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Yep. B.J. didn't hustle there. It's one clip. But you can't deny the work B.J. has done consistently off the field. Read all the stories on it. B.J. didn't suck on the field last year because he wasn't putting in work off the field. You want to know who was lazy off the field? Andruw Jones. Had he taken better care of himself he wouldn't have come crashing down to earth as fast he did.
 
AUTiger7222 said:
Yep. B.J. didn't hustle there. It's one clip. But you can't deny the work B.J. has done consistently off the field. Read all the stories on it. B.J. didn't suck on the field last year because he wasn't putting in work off the field. You want to know who was lazy off the field? Andruw Jones. Had he taken better care of himself he wouldn't have come crashing down to earth as fast he did.
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We aren't talking about Andrew, we are talking about BJ. I'm sure you can find other clips of BJ not giving 100% if you looked hard enough. He doesn't always give 100%. I'm sure he does work hard off the field, most players do. I never said he didn't put in the work off the field because I have no way of knowing but on the field he's lazy. He doesn't run out ground balls and lets balls fall in front of him that he could easily get too if he would hustle. Andrew did this once and Bobby yanked him for it, after that I never saw it from him again.
 
ChapelHillMatt said:
We aren't talking about Andrew, we are talking about BJ. I'm sure you can find other clips of BJ not giving 100% if you looked hard enough. He doesn't always give 100%. I'm sure he does work hard off the field, most players do. I never said he didn't put in the work off the field because I have no way of knowing but on the field he's lazy. He doesn't run out ground balls and lets balls fall in front of him that he could easily get too if he would hustle. Andrew did this once and Bobby yanked him for it, after that I never saw it from him again.
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Yep.
 
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My all-time fave Ervin.
 
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