Braves Trade Heyward, Walden to Cardinals for Miller and Tyrell Jenkins

Agree.
Miller + a top 10 would be a decent haul. This guy isn't top 25

gilesfan said:
Think anyone with half a brain knew Heyward wasn't staying here long term and it was a risk to sign him to big dollars as it is due to his lack of offensive production.

But, Shelby Miller? Really, not like Shelby Miller and a top 10 prospect? Not Shelby Miller and Matt Carpenter? Not Shelby Miller and someone good at the very least?

I'm shocked.
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thethe said:
Heyward wasn't going to sign here long term. We got a high ceiling pitcher in return.

I don't see what the issue was. The real dumb decision would be to let him walk for a comp pick next yeAR.
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What we got is with a little refining with his secondary pitches (Miller) is a guy that potentially could be our next John Smoltz. And we got another high upside arm that may live up to some of the potential as well.

Of course the other flip side, neither could amount to much and Miller could be stuck as a middle of the rotation starter and Jenkins amounts to nothing.
 
emk418 said:
Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor is pretty sexy.
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Like, this sexy:

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emk418 said:
Again....forgetting about the shock of Heyward being gone. Teheran, Wood, Miller, Minor is pretty sexy.
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Agreed, but our offense that will get shutout 100 times isn't.
Miller still has a lot to prove, Minor has to rebound.
 
Hawk said:
Zach Klein

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MLB source - This is just the beginning. Only players safe are top-3 pitchers, Kimbrel, Freddie and Simmons"

WTF.
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keeping Kimbrel is so ****ing stupid now

cause we need to save games badly i guess
 
I hate to see Heyward go. He was one of my favorites and the player I wanted to do well more than any player since Andruw Jones. I remember how he was leading the NL MVP race after two months as a 20 year old in 2010. He was now entering his prime years, but it all boils down to a few things...

1. There was a slim to no chance Jason Heyward would be a Brave in 2016.
2. With Uggla and B. Upton, there was a slim to no chance the Braves would win a World Series in 2015.

The Braves know this. The Cardinals know this. The entire league knows this. The Braves are building a young, talented team with eyes set on competing for a World Series in 2017 after two average seasons. After this trade, there is no way the Braves can justify not moving Justin Upton. IMO, they can't even justify signing him to an extension. He has to go for some more young talent and salary relief.
 
Braves acquired RHP Tyrell Jenkins and RHP Shelby Miller from the Cardinals for OF Jason Heyward and RHP Jordan Walden.
Jenkins hasn't quite met the hype that made him a supplemental first-round pick in the 2010 MLB Amateur Draft, but he is a well-built 22-year-old with the raw ability to eventually develop into a high-impact major league pitcher. Jenkins was recruited to play quarterback at Baylor University before signing with St. Louis. He had a good showing this year in the Arizona Fall League after battling injuries for much of 2013 and 2014.
 
thethe said:
Heyward wasn't going to sign here long term. We got a high ceiling pitcher in return.

I don't see what the issue was. The real dumb decision would be to let him walk for a comp pick next yeAR.
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Miller had the seventh worst FIP among qualifying pitchers. Just sayin. Snugly tucked in between Kyle Kendrick and Colby Lewis. But hey gotta love that high ceiling.
 
Welp, my summer for the next couple years just freed up. Hope it turns out well but my initial reaction is "really, that's it?". Yikes.
 
Why do you keep Kimbrel? He's not going to get to pitch b/c you have to score to get a lead. Save some innings on his arm this year?
 
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