Braves Trade Heyward, Walden to Cardinals for Miller and Tyrell Jenkins

Deal probably means we're keeping Gattis and putting him in LF, and moving JUp to RF. Everyone keeps saying we can't afford both Heyward and Jup so a trade of one of them shouldn't be a surprise.
 
stpeteirish said:
Deal probably means we're keeping Gattis and putting him in LF, and moving JUp to RF. Everyone keeps saying we can't afford both Heyward and Jup so a trade of one of them shouldn't be a surprise.
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I think its full rebuild mode... Upton will be a Yankee or Mariner... Gattis will be gone. Seems like most MLB sources think its a full rebuild also.
 
Dalyn said:
If we sign the package of Lester and Peavy (using money saved in the deal and using Minor to help unload BJ and his contract) this might make sense.

Lester

Teheran

Wood

Peavy

Miller

Otherwise, adding Miller doesn't even come close to making this a great rotation. And what I just outlined above is never going to happen, so...
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Or saving money to signing an ace next year or going into 2017. We should sit back and see what the team ends up looking like in 2017 before jumping off the ledge.
 
Hawk said:
I like Shelby Miller, I just don't like him in exchange for Jason Heyward.
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If it was a simple Heyward for Miller swap, I actually wouldn't mind it that much.... Basically the Braves (and I don't blame them) came to the conclusion that Heyward isn't going to become what they thought. At least not with them. It pretty much went the same with Jeff Francoeur. Goldenboy dude busted upon the scene, looked like he was gonna be with the club for 15 years, was traded and never signed longed term figuring he was a bust. So far, they've been right.

We'll have to see with Heyward but they're figuring the same thing.
 
Lol wait. So Freeman and Kimbrel are safe when they could get a fleecing in return. What a joke this front office is.

Guess Bobby didn't care for Heyward. Ya know since he likes to rescue his boys.
 
Dunit24 said:
Or saving money to signing an ace next year or going into 2017. We should sit back and see what the team ends up looking like in 2017 before jumping off the ledge.
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So you want everyone to sit around waiting for the end of 2017 before responding? What about if Heyward has a 40/40 season next year?
 
Would be nice to get Alex Jackson and D.J. Peterson from Seattle plus Walker... probably too much for Upton but that would be a sweet haul.
 
Dalyn said:
So you want everyone to sit around waiting for the end of 2017 before responding? What about if Heyward has a 40/40 season next year?
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Then he's going to get a ton of money on the market.

What if he doesn't and miller wins 20 games? That seems more likely than Heyward 40/40.
 
Dalyn said:
So you want everyone to sit around waiting for the end of 2017 before responding? What about if Heyward has a 40/40 season next year?
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Well considering his highs are 27/21, what if Miller has an ERA of 0.63, 230K and wins Cy Young?
 
Dunit24 said:
Then he's going to get a ton of money on the market.

What if he doesn't and miller wins 20 games? That seems more likely than Heyward 40/40.
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More likely? Tom Glavine would have trouble winning 20 games with this offense. Heyward, on the other hand, has already had a 20/20 season on a team with no hitting coach and terrible baserunning.
 
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