Braves Trade Heyward, Walden to Cardinals for Miller and Tyrell Jenkins

jpx7 said:
I'll be honest: I've been thinking a lot over the past year or so about dropping the Braves (and thus baseball) from the list of things I spend time worrying myself with as a spectator.

The first straw, for me, was the racist, suburban switch from a perfectly good stadium to a sparkly new one in an adjoining county. Sure, it may very well be good business, for them, but it left a nasty taste in my metaphorical mouth. But, I rationalized to myself, at least it will be good for the team on the field—and that's what I care about with respect to the Braves.

Now that same sparkly new stadium is being used as justification for another rebuild, right around the moment it felt like the last, post-Cox rebuilding just got some legs under it. And, honestly, I personally felt better about the direction of the team circa two months ago, at the end of the 2014 regular season than I do now—despite both that roster's and that management's warts—considering what I've seen, heard, and read from this new (but really pretty old) crew managing the latest round of rebuilding we're watching commence.

To top it off, from the perspective of my personal spectation: the first real shoe to drop is a trade of my favorite player—a kid I was elated to see the Braves draft, who I followed up the system, and who I really enjoyed watching—to the major-league team I despise most, and for a return whose quality leaves me feeling further skeptical about the evaluative capacities of the "new" regime.

There's more to come, I'm sure—and for the Braves sake, I hope the return on the younger Upton, Gattis, Kimbrel (if they're wise enough to trade him while they're at it), and whoever else is a lot better than what the team received for Heyward. Nonetheless, it's certainly been enough to shake my desire to follow this (and thus any) club.

But I like baseball, and I like discussing baseball, so I'm not sure that just walking away is the best route, for me. At the moment, I'm seriously considering an alternative bargain: actively rooting against this team—at least for a few years.
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Thanks for eloquently putting into words what I was having trouble expressing in my anger.

I always felt like Heyward was underappreciated here. There were rumblings from Shanks early on that the team never really had an interest in keeping here long-term. Remember "multi-hit games," anyone? It seemed they always had it out for him, even as he continued along playing as hard and as smart as anyone on our team.

Maybe I'm wrong, but the whole thing stinks of some dark underpinnings. I'd like to think this isn't the case, but it is a Good Ol' Boys Club that runs this team, and they did just make plans to move out of the hood into the clean, sterile, rich suburbs. I don't like the feeling I get from this team.

Won't be a popular opinion, but I will always root for Heyward to succeed, even (especially?) at the Braves' expense.
 
Remember when Fredi was platooning Heyward? Remember when he was starting Jose Constanza over him?

LOL this organization.

I'm sorry he didn't have enough RBIs, you numbnuts.
 
Been to a regular strip club, went to see a dj, gone to a few bars, played some pinball and about to go the clermont

And it all started with "**** this ****, they traded heyward!?!?"

Still pissed the **** off
 
I blame myself. I've always had a "don't buy a jersey" policy. Went to a game this year...bought a jersey...Heyward jersey...I apologize.
 
BremanFan88 said:
I blame myself. I've always had a "don't buy a jersey" policy. Went to a game this year...bought a jersey...Heyward jersey...I apologize.
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Reminds me of why I don't wear UGA gear on UGA game days. Did that once, and Florida beat us 49-10. Never again.

I'm a little surprised they sell jerseys for average offensive players, though.
 
We weren't winning anything anyways.

I have no issue trading Jason Heyward away. I like Miller and I don't know anything about the prospect we are getting. My only gripe was that this couldn't have been the best package out there. Not too mention we traded another major league pitcher in Jordan Walden.

My only guess is that they front office has some plans moving forward that were contingent on trading Jason away sooner rather later.
 
I found out by a friend that's a Brewers fan sending me a text that said, "Congratulations, your GM is a moron. Thanks for making the Cardinals a better team."

I hoped desperately as I opened up my browser that it was Justin Upton that got dealt, but I knew what really happened.
 
NinersSBChamps said:
We weren't winning anything anyways.

I have no issue trading Jason Heyward away. I like Miller and I don't know anything about the prospect we are getting. My only gripe was that this couldn't have been the best package out there. Not too mention we traded another major league pitcher in Jordan Walden.

My only guess is that they front office has some plans moving forward that were contingent on trading Jason away sooner rather later.
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I'm just going to hope we accomplish something logical over the new few weeks. Whether it's spending the money we save on some actual real MLB talent, or if it's rebuild central, actually getting some motherfreaking everyday young guys because we obviously are just overflowing with young hitting prospects.
 
yeezus said:
AGAIN: There's a reason the Cardinals, a consistently successful organization, coveted Heyward. It ain't because he's just OK.
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This is the most retarded reason I have seen yet. Of course the Cards wanted him. I'm sure every team in baseball wanted him. The Rays have coveted CB for a pretty long while now. I'm sure every team covets Justin Upton (other than the DBacks). Looks like we coveted Shelby Miller, and our organization knows a little something about pitching. By your logic, Miller must be a certain ace.

The fact that a player is coveted by some other team does mean he is some superstar/best player ever.
 
I understand the shock of trading Heyward and it's justified questioning the deal(even though I agree with it) but I think a lot of people are undervaluing Shelby Miller. Sophomore slumps are very common and he really did not have a bad year at all. I actually am pretty excited about the year he had. His first half was awful but be made tremendous strides in the second half. It's not everyday that you get to add a big young power arm that's already had success. I'm excited to see what Shelby does working with Roger.
 
emk418 said:
I understand the shock of trading Heyward and it's justified questioning the deal(even though I agree with it) but I think a lot of people are undervaluing Shelby Miller. Sophomore slumps are very common and he really did not have a bad year at all. I actually am pretty excited about the year he had. His first half was awful but be made tremendous strides in the second half. It's not everyday that you get to add a big young power arm that's already had success. I'm excited to see what Shelby does working with Roger.
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Miller is probably OK. I think from a production level we make out fine. From a marketing and leadership part, we're ****ed. I really hope Jason tests FA and we bring him back, but that won't happen. We're not going to do it. If he posts a big year he'll be a Dodger.
 
emk418 said:
I understand the shock of trading Heyward and it's justified questioning the deal(even though I agree with it) but I think a lot of people are undervaluing Shelby Miller. Sophomore slumps are very common and he really did not have a bad year at all. I actually am pretty excited about the year he had. His first half was awful but be made tremendous strides in the second half. It's not everyday that you get to add a big young power arm that's already had success. I'm excited to see what Shelby does working with Roger.
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A second half driven by a very low BABIP...
 
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