C. Bethancourt to SD for RHP Kelly, and '14 International Signee R. Rodriguez (C)

atl717 said:
No reason to dump him for a non prospect. Just send him to AAA.
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For the 50th time, he is out of options and can't just be sent to AAA without first passing through waivers. Surely some team would claim him and he would be gone anyways.
 
chop2chip said:
Jayson Stark was the first to report that the Padres were pushing hard for Bethancourt. So, I think it's safe to step down from the soap box now.
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Meh, whatever. Not everybody has ample free time to flip among Twitter, MLBTR and here all day long to react to every single update.
 
atl717 said:
Kelly sucks, oh well.
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I listened to an interview with Hart last night. He tried to talk CB up but it was clear the Braves are exasperated with him. They really don't care what happens to him and really don't care what the return is.
 
Knucksie said:
Meh, whatever. Not everybody has ample free time to flip among Twitter, MLBTR and here all day long to react to every single update.
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So why would you be upset when people put all of that in one spot so you can quickly react and then get back to your busy schedule?
 
bravesfanMatt said:
or maybe, just maybe less than 300 Abs in the majors is not enough time to evaluate a hitter... or maybe just maybe if Frediot would have played him more than 4, FOUR, that is right 4 times in back to back games last year, he might have improved more. I think Catching has to be one of the most demanding positions on the field. and if you are playing every three days, and on top of that, you are a rookie.. I bet you would find it hard to develop consistency.

But his time with us is past.. wish him luck and just hope we can salvage something in a trade for him..
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May be, but his lack of effort has been widely noted. You want to play more, you have got to put in the work. And according to multiple reports, the Braves staff just wasn't seeing it.
 
Carp said:
May be, but his lack of effort has been widely noted. You want to play more, you have got to put in the work. And according to multiple reports, the Braves staff just wasn't seeing it.
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I never read such reports. they may exist.. and don't worry about looking for them really. I am not questioning your sources.. Just saying from what I have seen.. I have heard radio and message boards saying he was lazy.. but that can also be hear se.. it really doesn't matter.. I am not that upset over CB... I am just a kind of guy that likes for a team to give a player a shot before saying nope.. beat it..

like folty getting a year of starts before casting him to the pen..
 
bravesfanMatt said:
I never read such reports. they may exist.. and don't worry about looking for them really. I am not questioning your sources.. Just saying from what I have seen.. I have heard radio and message boards saying he was lazy.. but that can also be hear se.. it really doesn't matter.. I am not that upset over CB... I am just a kind of guy that likes for a team to give a player a shot before saying nope.. beat it..

like folty getting a year of starts before casting him to the pen..
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agree until the bold statement....Folty may be an okay starter in the long run... but his main value could be at the back end of the bullpen setting up/closing down the line....and with the amount of pitching we have coming through our system I wouldn't be opposed to let him grow into the role...
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
agree until the bold statement....Folty may be an okay starter in the long run... but his main value could be at the back end of the bullpen setting up/closing down the line....and with the amount of pitching we have coming through our system I wouldn't be opposed to let him grow into the role...
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there are plenty of power arms for the bullpen. not as many that can maintain that through out the game. I would want him time to develop before saying his best value is out of the pen..
 
Jenkins
Newcomb
Blair
Perez
ManBan
Folty

Those are all guys that could reasonably show up to spring training with a chance to break spring training with the team as the 5th starter. If we sign a veteran SP for the 4th spot, I would like to see what either Jenkins, Newcomb, or Blair can do....we saw Perez/ManBan/Folty last year
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
Jenkins
Newcomb
Blair
Perez
ManBan
Folty

Those are all guys that could reasonably show up to spring training with a chance to break spring training with the team as the 5th starter. If we sign a veteran SP for the 4th spot, I would like to see what either Jenkins, Newcomb, or Blair can do....we saw Perez/ManBan/Folty last year
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Jenkins/Newcomb/Blair won't start in Atl next season.. one, no need to start their clock this season... two, they will benefit more from AAA next year... and three, Folty/ManBan/Perez/Weber need to define their roles and/or build value.. there is a great chance that 3 of those four I just mentioned to be with another organization next year.
 
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