CBO - ObamaCare may cut 2.5 million jobs

57Brave said:
maybe read the comments and other articles sans headline.

Sturg = this is getting old. You latch onto any headline you find that supports some cockamamy preconceived notion and like a puppy run with it.
Read my friend ---- read.

You see, this is why your HC went up 79%. Details man - details
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LOL. You're such an idiot. My healthcare went up 79% because of new regulations forced on my company. It would have gone up 79% whether I read about it or not.
 
57Brave said:
Quit posting false stuff. It clouds your brain and clutters the board
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You are mistaken, Sturg might clutter the board on occasion, but you own it with your false reporting from the way left leaning sites.

Sturg is an independent to the core so he has no RIGHT WING to lean on people as they don't want or side with him. So......

Go ahead and attack independents and be wrong while the RIGHT laugh at you and they are.
 
Mine was from the Washington Post was one of several sites I saw that debunked the far right (yet again) scare tactics. I like sturg but he's NOT an independent. If you'll check out the links I put up on the minimum wage thread you'll see what I mean, but sadly even though I like sturg he has fallen into some sites that are farther to the right than Dick Cheney but they call themselves Libertarians so...
 
Oklahomahawk said:
Mine was from the Washington Post was one of several sites I saw that debunked the far right (yet again) scare tactics. I like sturg but he's NOT an independent. If you'll check out the links I put up on the minimum wage thread you'll see what I mean, but sadly even though I like sturg he has fallen into some sites that are farther to the right than Dick Cheney but they call themselves Libertarians so...
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It's misleading though to say that it cuts unemployment, because it only does so by lowering the workforce. The article you posted didn't debunk the article itself, just the unemployment line Sturg used, which I guess was your intent, but still I wanted to get that out there. The articles main complaint seems to be this:

Translation? The old employer sponsored system forced people to stay in jobs they didn’t like because they needed the health insurance coverage. The new Obamacare system will force people to stay out of jobs they do want because they need to maximize their subsidies. And this is social progress?

The congressional actuaries go on to state that forgoing Obamacare subsidies and returning to full time work with health benefits (for lower wage and middle class workers) amounts to an average, implicit tax of about 15% paid by each worker. CBO does note that these considerations only affect a segment of the workforce – specifically the middle class and working class who earn annual incomes that put them below 400% of the Federal poverty level (about $95,000 for a family of four). But that represents a large portion of the labor market.
 
To those fast approaching retirement time. Tell me how being able to afford HC without having a job they don't otherwise need is a bad thing.
Suppose it is nothing more than a greeter at Wal-Mart. Could a single Mom otherwise unemployed take that spot?

And, if you do have a point - what can be done to fix it?
Solutions-solutions -solutions

Funny thing about ACA is the deeper it becomes entrenched in our way of life - the claims get more and more outlandish.
Let's be very clear. ACA will not "cut 2.5 million jobs"
 
Oklahomahawk said:
Mine was from the Washington Post was one of several sites I saw that debunked the far right (yet again) scare tactics. I like sturg but he's NOT an independent. If you'll check out the links I put up on the minimum wage thread you'll see what I mean, but sadly even though I like sturg he has fallen into some sites that are farther to the right than Dick Cheney but they call themselves Libertarians so...
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More right than Dick Cheney? I didn't know Cheney was right?

Can you explain what about my positions makes you think I'm such a monster?
 
57Brave said:
To those fast approaching retirement time. Tell me how being able to afford HC without having a job they don't otherwise need is a bad thing.
Suppose it is nothing more than a greeter at Wal-Mart. Could a single Mom otherwise unemployed take that spot?

And, if you do have a point - what can be done to fix it?
Solutions-solutions -solutions

Funny thing about ACA is the deeper it becomes entrenched in our way of life - the claims get more and more outlandish.
Let's be very clear. ACA will not "cut 2.5 million jobs"
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Your second sentence isn't the problem though. See what I posted above.

About how to fix it... from the article:

These disincentives can’t be easily fixed — they are baked into the structure of the Obamacare subsidies. A refundable tax credit, similar to the one offered in some conservative plans, sidesteps some of these effects.
 
We could speculate the intricate nuances of an unproven program until the cows come home. That is what this board is all about . But,
Bottom line today is Obamacare did not cut 2.5 Million Jobs and posting this headline is, putting it kindly, misleading. SA trick I'd expect from Karl Rove. But, no one here is a supporter of Rove or Palin, or Bush, or Howard Kane, or Newt, or Santorum, or ...

To true Libertarians this tactic is why Gary Johnson is a pipe dream
 
The headline says "may cut" and article explains over ten year.

Still waiting to hear how I could have avoided that 79%…
 
and the moon may be made of green cheese

even worse is one or two fellow Braves fans thanked you for speculating 2.5 Million people "may" lose their jobs.
That is how you could have avoided your HC increase
 
57Brave said:
and the moon may be made of green cheese

even worse is one or two fellow Braves fans thanked you for speculating 2.5 Million people "may" lose their jobs.
That is how you could have avoided your HC increase
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Can you explain how I could have avoided the increase? - By not posting this thread??
 
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