Charleston SC shooting

you can't prevent situations like this from happening. Crazy people will always go crazy. Well there's one way but people won't go for it.

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-36131

Englad since the turn of the century in 1900 has had 3
Australia has had 0 mass shootings since 1996

i honestly don't have time to go through each modern country but your bull**** line is dumber than your usual bull**** lines
 
"In South Carolina, the roads that black people drive on are named for Confederate generals who fought to keep black people from being able to drive freely on that road," he
said. "The Confederate flag flies over South Carolina, and the roads are named for Confederate generals.

And the white guy’s the one who feels like his country’s being taken away from him.”
 
This guy will be celebrated and protected inside the penal system.

Which is another aspect of gang and segmented/ segregated society.
We hear an awful lot about gangs of color and how they populated the prisons and bring that culture back into the world.
What about the white gangs ? Ayrian Nation -- or other white supremacist gangs.
Where do they go once they come out?

What is their influence on society ?
Guess my point is, in the public square there really isn't a level playing field. While Bill O goes on and on about Thug Culture -- what balances that?
 
just like here, there is limits on freedom of speech there

their limit is not allowing a sign of a group that ran that country at one time and brought the world to war and tried to exterminate a race of people not being allowed to waive their banner anymore in that country

seems pretty ****ing reasonable to me

I've been to Germany dozens and dozens of times (including last week). It's one of my favorite countries.

But ... to your comments:

It still flies in plenty of ways.

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http://www.spiegel.de/international...uld-block-german-bid-to-ban-npd-a-833053.html

The Anti-Defamation League says that 27% (19 million) Germans still harbor anti-Semitic views.

You simply can't legislate away hate. It kind of makes it worse.
 
Please Hawk recognize the difference between citizens waving banners and state sanctioned anti (fill in the blank ) .

a correct comparison would be if the Swastika was flying over capital(s) of German provinces.
Pretty sure that is not the case
 
Please Hawk recognize the difference between citizens waving banners and state sanctioned anti (fill in the blank ) .

a correct comparison would be if the Swastika was flying over capital(s) of German provinces.
Pretty sure that is not the case

NDP isn't citizens waving banners.

I'd suggest a little research: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/de}naz.html

Sorry, I can't spoon feed it to you like the liberal media.
 
a correct comparison would be if the Swastika was flying over capital(s) of German provinces.
Pretty sure that is not the case

It's also not the case that the confederate flag is "flying over" the capital of South Carolina. It's over a memorial to Confederate dead.

But let's continue to sensationalize and misrepresent the facts as it suits our misconceptions.
 
and why would you memorialize / celebrate traitors and protectors of enslaving human beings?
A state funded and sanctioned building

I take it you are not in favor of removing the flag or tightening gun regulations in your state ?

I did say Swastika --- and meant swastika.
Pretty sure we can safely equate the swastika to the stars and bars.

............
As to the symbol you dug up

Let me suggest you read the article you posted where it says :
" The German government is preparing a new legal bid to outlaw the party, which the German domestic intelligence agency has described as being a "racist, anti-Semitic, revisionist" party bent on overthrowing Germany's democracy and setting up a Fourth Reich. "

....

misconceptions ??
nah, I don't think so.
The flag is what it is.
You put lipstick on a pig and what you got?
A pig
 
i honestly don't have time to go through each modern country but your bull**** line is dumber than your usual bull**** lines

I support stricter gun control laws, but that doesn't prevent me from easily recognizing that KRG's point is salient.

If it's not guns it's going to be knives, cars, or chemical weapons, etc.

350 are stabbed each day in England (which has a considerably smaller population). 289 people are shot in the United States.
 
A state funded and sanctioned building
excuse me

I take it you are not in favor of removing the flag or tightening gun regulations in your state ?

or itching for a fight
which?

What's your point?

The German government funds Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Nuremberg Rally Grounds, etc as memorials.
 
What's your point?

The German government funds Dachau, Sachsenhausen, Nuremberg Rally Grounds, etc as memorials.

Yes, and to a VERY different end than SC has clung to the confederate flag.

This has always mystified and disheartened me.

This encapsulates it pretty well.
 
from Hawk's Link:

Used to hear this back a ways ago referring to Mercedes and Porche automobiles.
"those clever Germans"

this to that point

Because of legal bans against using the swastica and NSDAP flags in Germany, many extremist groups have adopted the practice of using historical Imperial flags and modern variants at their demonstrations and rallies. Examples would be the following Imperial Era flags
 
I support stricter gun control laws, but that doesn't prevent me from easily recognizing that KRG's point is salient.

If it's not guns it's going to be knives, cars, or chemical weapons, etc.

350 are stabbed each day in England (which has a considerably smaller population). 289 people are shot in the United States.

I'm thinking about the time Roof was stabbing the first person he would have been wrestled tp the ground.
I'm still waiting for that Mass Knifing that kills 9
....

"... cars, or chemical weapons, etc."

Or perhaps the bad guys from the Hobbit Trilogy.
 
I want whatever drugs you are taking, I will even pay for the shipping.

That's where we differ.
I want no part of the drugs you are taking that enable you to defend what you are defending or invoke how German hate groups get around the law as an excuse to continue to celebrate "The Old South".

No part
 
Yes, and to a VERY different end than SC has clung to the confederate flag.

This has always mystified and disheartened me.

This encapsulates it pretty well.

Remember when Arthur Ravenel called the NAACP the 'national association of retarded people' ... and then apologized to retarded people ... and then we named the biggest bridge in the state after him?
 
I'm thinking about the time Roof was stabbing the first person he would have been wrestled tp the ground.
I'm still waiting for that Mass Knifing that kills 9
....

"... cars, or chemical weapons, etc."

Or perhaps the bad guys from the Hobbit Trilogy.

http://bfy.tw/Q7h

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Regional_High_School_stabbing (21 injured)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Calgary_stabbing (5 killed)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/19/us-australia-crime-murder-idUSKBN0JX09620141219 (8 killed)

etc.

etc.

etc.
 
I support stricter gun control laws, but that doesn't prevent me from easily recognizing that KRG's point is salient.

If it's not guns it's going to be knives, cars, or chemical weapons, etc.

350 are stabbed each day in England (which has a considerably smaller population). 289 people are shot in the United States.

I think the problem is something other than guns. There are developed countries with similarly lax gun laws that don't have the problems we do here in the US. I personally believe we have a mental health care crisis in this country. It may not solve the problem on its own, but to me that is the number one thing that needs to be addressed and not just because of these mass murders.
 
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