Christian Bethancourt optioned to Gwinnett

I am encouraged by the fact taht this time last year CF and 2B were the problem positions where we fans saw no solutions
 
If we can get Matt Wieters all of our catching problems will be over. Unfortunately, he will probably re-sign with Baltimore.
 
This is total bullcrap, we never gave him a real shot. Plus Bethancourt's 5 DRS was third in all of MLB and that's not in a lot of innings. AJ's -7 DRS is the worst in MLB.
 
Watching his play behind the plate I get the feeling he plays when he wants to. He gets lazy on balls to the un occupyed batters box . He is a "waver"
 
Braves1976 said:
This is total bullcrap, we never gave him a real shot. Plus Bethancourt's 5 DRS was third in all of MLB and that's not in a lot of innings. AJ's -7 DRS is the worst in MLB.
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Actually it is a good move. Bethencourt will never be an MLB catcher of note.
I doubt he could have an Eddie Perez type career let alone a McCann or Javy type career

Pretty obvious
 
Yeah. CB always seemed more likely to be a backup catcher type. There is still value in that
 
Braves1976 said:
Thanks Fredi..
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Braves1976 said:
This is total bullcrap, we never gave him a real shot. Plus Bethancourt's 5 DRS was third in all of MLB and that's not in a lot of innings. AJ's -7 DRS is the worst in MLB.
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Don't confuse us with the facts. LOL. Look, he's got his detractors and I'm a big supporter. He can and does get lazy. However, I've seen him stop, re-group and find himself (Maybe in Gwinett...). If you really watch, you can see he's gotten better about framing and blocking. The passed balls...concentration.
 
Deester11 said:
Don't confuse us with the facts. LOL. Look, he's got his detractors and I'm a big supporter. He can and does get lazy. However, I've seen him stop, re-group and find himself (Maybe in Gwinett...). If you really watch, you can see he's gotten better about framing and blocking. The passed balls...concentration.
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I actually agree with nsacpi that he's probably a career back-up but I have no tolerance for spin. The way Bethancourt is being treated while AJ goes out there daily stinking even worse defensively while being praised for it is total bullcrap. It was never good for him, esp. being lazy at times, to learn from someone like AJ. Plus when was the last time we actually gave Bethancourt three starts in a row? Call me when that happens a few times..
 
Braves1976 said:
I actually agree with nsacpi that he's probably a career back-up but I have no tolerance for spin. The way Bethancourt is being treated while AJ goes out there daily stinking even worse defensively while being praised for it is total bullcrap. It was never good for him, esp. being lazy at times, to learn from someone like AJ. Plus when was the last time we actually gave Bethancourt three starts in a row? Call me when that happens a few times..
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QFT.

The problem I've had with the situation all along is that I just don't understand how you can tell him "we don't want you to worry about what you do with a bat in your hands", and then play Pierzynski because his bat is hotter. If you want his bat to improve, you've got to give him regular ABs. The same can be said for his concentration and game-calling IMO - pretty tough for him to focus on those things when he's playing once a week AND pressing at the plate because it appears that he's got to hit to get a chance to play more.
 
clvclv said:
QFT.

The problem I've had with the situation all along is that I just don't understand how you can tell him "we don't want you to worry about what you do with a bat in your hands", and then play Pierzynski because his bat is hotter. If you want his bat to improve, you've got to give him regular ABs. The same can be said for his concentration and game-calling IMO - pretty tough for him to focus on those things when he's playing once a week AND pressing at the plate because it appears that he's got to hit to get a chance to play more.
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Agreed.
 
Even if his work habits are questionable (willing to reserve judgment), this can't be considered a bad move. CB is still young and presumably coachable. Plus, getting sent down sends a message to wake up. Meantime, he'll get to handle some familiar names: Wisler, Wang, Baneulos, Carpenter, Martin and Moylan.
 
Tapate50 said:
He was touted for his defense when young because he has what...an 80 arm back there? The assumption was he could learn the finer points in his progression. Hardly a stretch.

We desperately need prospects for behind the plate.
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I understand that... but he remained touted even after it was clear his defense wasn't all it was cracked up to be... like I said... he was touted based on potential that had never been flashed. We kept expecting it to flash, and it never did... yet he remained a highly rated prospect.
 
Deester11 said:
I'm sure you understand that scouts scout and players have to live up to potential. As someone mentioned before, he's fallen into habits that he did when he first got to AA. That doesn't speak for what he could be IMHO. The old mantra applies: "Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard." I've seen him mope around when a lesser player at the time played in front of him, seen him outright miss 3 balls in a row, but on the other hand I've seen him throw out the best base stealers and shut down a run game in the minors. I don't know what's going on with him, but I do know that a young player, especially a demanding position like catcher has to play. Perhaps this is his wake up call. I still hope he gets it.
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He has never looked good at any level offensively... and he never flashed the defense he was supposed to at any level. It was bad group think... he was never an elite prospect and never deserved to be one.
 
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