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msstate7
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Due to climate change, the reef is expanding so much, it will overtake all oceans of the world in 13.456 years
sturg33
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If we do not give.up our cars and give government limitless power and money, the reef will grow so fast it will literally kill us
sturg33
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Can you explain in your own words why the earth is being destroyed?
We only hear about this stuff when Texas is having problems but when Cal has them (and usually more often) you don't hear a peep. They're asking people not to charge their electric cars during peak hours.
https://www.caiso.com/Documents/excessive-heat-starting-tomorrow-will-stress-energy-grid.pdf
https://www.caiso.com/Documents/excessive-heat-starting-tomorrow-will-stress-energy-grid.pdf
sturg33
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It's amazing how they are wrong on literally every single issue. There is a not a single issue the left gets right
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sturg33
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Can the seals give some assurances to us idiots who don't want to be forced into an electric car?
acesfull86
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https://www.aier.org/article/new-jersey-bag-ban/
New Jersey has outlawed plastic bags, paper bags, and styrofoam containers—and yet its efforts to be green are backfiring. The New York Times recently reported, with faint amusement, on “New Jersey Bag Ban’s Unforeseen Consequence: Too Many Bags.” And indeed there is something farcical about a statewide bag prohibition that leads to a veritable avalanche of reusable bags collecting in people’s homes, garages, and recycling containers:
The well-intentioned law seeks to cut down on waste and single-use plastics, but for many people who rely on grocery delivery and curbside pickup services their orders now come in heavy-duty reusable shopping bags—lots and lots of them, week after week.
Lawmakers are perplexed. Yet this whole fiasco is so eminently and utterly predictable, not only exemplifying the inability of repressive laws to fully effect the changes they seek, but the tendency to actually make the problem worse.
The main problem, the Times implies, was in lawmakers’ failure to account for the growing proportion (more than 6 percent) of folks getting their groceries online. “There is clearly a hiccup on this, and we’re going to solve it,” said New Jersey Senator Bob Smith, co-sponsor of the bill that made plastic disposables into Public Enemies. No, Bob, this is not just a “hiccup,” and no you aren’t going to “solve it.” This is a fundamental feature of virtue-lawmaking.
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To begin, plastic bags in particular aren’t as bad as we think. According to National Geographic, not known for its anti-environment spin, “…a major advantage of plastic bags is that, when compared to other types of shopping bags, producing them carries the lowest environmental toll.” The Danish Environmental Protection Agency made big, but apparently short-lived, waves when it concluded that humble shopping bags (the low density polyethylene variety) “are the carriers providing the overall lowest environmental impacts.”
The Danish bureaucrats also reached a number of other counterintuitive conclusions. Incinerating these bags has a lower environmental impact than recycling them does. In a well-documented lifecycle cost analysis, one of the worst environmental bag options is organic cotton reusable totes. Yes, even the ones with a green leaf or edifying message on the tag. In fact, if we are honest in our total accounting, “ego” bags must be reused 20,000 to offset their impact. Even if you reused your eco-bag twice a week (and didn’t forget it half the time like I do), it would take 192 years for the bag to wipe away its environmental footprint. In New Jersey, where reusable bags are now piling up, they seem to prefer PET (Polyethylene terephthalate) bags, which are kind of cool and hip-looking, but anything but green. It takes approximately 84 reuses of a PET bag to offset its impacts, which means that “Mr. Otto,” who has 101 of these bags now ludicrously stashed in his hall closet, must make 8,484 trips to the grocery store, or about 80 years-worth, before he can personally clean up his (unanticipated) impact. This is what is meant by things getting worse through feel-good legislation. Not only has New Jersey’s law not fundamentally changed human behavior, but virtue-signaling proponents of bag bans actually saddled the planet with even more environmental baggage. It would be comical if it weren’t so sad.
New Jersey has outlawed plastic bags, paper bags, and styrofoam containers—and yet its efforts to be green are backfiring. The New York Times recently reported, with faint amusement, on “New Jersey Bag Ban’s Unforeseen Consequence: Too Many Bags.” And indeed there is something farcical about a statewide bag prohibition that leads to a veritable avalanche of reusable bags collecting in people’s homes, garages, and recycling containers:
The well-intentioned law seeks to cut down on waste and single-use plastics, but for many people who rely on grocery delivery and curbside pickup services their orders now come in heavy-duty reusable shopping bags—lots and lots of them, week after week.
Lawmakers are perplexed. Yet this whole fiasco is so eminently and utterly predictable, not only exemplifying the inability of repressive laws to fully effect the changes they seek, but the tendency to actually make the problem worse.
The main problem, the Times implies, was in lawmakers’ failure to account for the growing proportion (more than 6 percent) of folks getting their groceries online. “There is clearly a hiccup on this, and we’re going to solve it,” said New Jersey Senator Bob Smith, co-sponsor of the bill that made plastic disposables into Public Enemies. No, Bob, this is not just a “hiccup,” and no you aren’t going to “solve it.” This is a fundamental feature of virtue-lawmaking.
...
To begin, plastic bags in particular aren’t as bad as we think. According to National Geographic, not known for its anti-environment spin, “…a major advantage of plastic bags is that, when compared to other types of shopping bags, producing them carries the lowest environmental toll.” The Danish Environmental Protection Agency made big, but apparently short-lived, waves when it concluded that humble shopping bags (the low density polyethylene variety) “are the carriers providing the overall lowest environmental impacts.”
The Danish bureaucrats also reached a number of other counterintuitive conclusions. Incinerating these bags has a lower environmental impact than recycling them does. In a well-documented lifecycle cost analysis, one of the worst environmental bag options is organic cotton reusable totes. Yes, even the ones with a green leaf or edifying message on the tag. In fact, if we are honest in our total accounting, “ego” bags must be reused 20,000 to offset their impact. Even if you reused your eco-bag twice a week (and didn’t forget it half the time like I do), it would take 192 years for the bag to wipe away its environmental footprint. In New Jersey, where reusable bags are now piling up, they seem to prefer PET (Polyethylene terephthalate) bags, which are kind of cool and hip-looking, but anything but green. It takes approximately 84 reuses of a PET bag to offset its impacts, which means that “Mr. Otto,” who has 101 of these bags now ludicrously stashed in his hall closet, must make 8,484 trips to the grocery store, or about 80 years-worth, before he can personally clean up his (unanticipated) impact. This is what is meant by things getting worse through feel-good legislation. Not only has New Jersey’s law not fundamentally changed human behavior, but virtue-signaling proponents of bag bans actually saddled the planet with even more environmental baggage. It would be comical if it weren’t so sad.