Crowdsourcing help re Mets

As encheff pointed out this concept has been studied in many ways. However is essentially the identification of a tight curveball vs a loopy one. Total movement is misleading.
 
thethe said:
As encheff pointed out this concept has been studied in many ways. However is essentially the identification of a tight curveball vs a loopy one. Total movement is misleading.
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This is completely wrong, and shows a lack of understanding behind the physics of ball movement. Seriously, read Dr. Nathan's work before babbling on like this.
 
Enscheff said:
This is completely wrong, and shows a lack of understanding behind the physics of ball movement. Seriously, read Dr. Nathan's work before babbling on like this.
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Does the spin rate of a ball decrease as a ball moves on a plane?
 
thethe said:
Does the spin rate of a ball decrease as a ball moves on a plane?
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Any decrease of a ball’s angular momentum would be constant for all balls thrown by every pitcher. There is nothing to discuss here.

Just stop. You’re further proving your ignorance with every single post.
 
Enscheff said:
Any decrease of a ball’s angular momentum would be constant for all balls thrown by every pitcher. There is nothing to discuss here.

Just stop. You’re further proving your ignorance with every single post.
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Took you that long to research a response eh?

The forward momentum of the ball and the spin rate will impact the rate at which the ball moves and when it moves.
 
The Mets situation is why we stockpiled resources into pitchers. They're just so volatile.

They're good enough to be legit, deep-run playoff contenders with their pitching. But they're also one or two key injuries away from being 10 games under .500.
 
thethe said:
Took you that long to research a response eh?

The forward momentum of the ball and the spin rate will impact the rate at which the ball moves and when it moves.
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Lol you could not be more clueless. A pitcher imparts velocity and spin on a particular axis the moment the ball leaves his hand. After that point all balls are effected by external forces exactly the same. There is nothing to analyze. If you’re still referencing the “late break” fallacy, I suggest reading Nathan’s work.

I’m confident nsacpi will not be forwarding any of your thoughts to this kid, so your ignorance is harmless.
 
Enscheff said:
Lol you could not be more clueless. A pitcher imparts velocity and spin on a particular axis the moment the ball leaves his hand. After that point all balls are effected by external forces exactly the same. There is nothing to analyze. If you’re still referencing the “late break” fallacy, I suggest reading Nathan’s work.

I’m confident nsacpi will not be forwarding any of your thoughts to this kid, so your ignorance is harmless.
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Agreed with this but these forces imparted by the pitcher are different at the time of release. Unless of course you are saying all spin rates and velocity are uniform across the total pitcher population.
 
preliminary finding: one of the pitchers has a very good pitch that he does not use much

could be related to injury history
 
what about the meta question: what can we say about how things will unfold next off-season given the very weird off-season we just saw. Anyone?
 
nsacpi said:
what about the meta question: what can we say about how things will unfold next off-season given the very weird off-season we just saw. Anyone?
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But as weird as the off-season was, outside of Moustakas signing for below market value, Holland not signing yet, and Lynn getting only a one-year deal, everyone else in the top tier of guys pretty much got paid. I was surprised that Cobb got a contract for as much and as long as it turned out to be.
 
50PoundHead said:
But as weird as the off-season was, outside of Moustakas signing for below market value, Holland not signing yet, and Lynn getting only a one-year deal, everyone else in the top tier of guys pretty much got paid. I was surprised that Cobb got a contract for as much and as long as it turned out to be.
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Moose is the one big aberration. Lynn did get multiyear offers. Walker also got much less than expected.
 
nsacpi said:
Moose is the one big aberration. Lynn did get multiyear offers. Walker also got much less than expected.
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I agree on Walker to some extent. I don't know if it's analytics or not, but I think of guys like Walker and John Jay in kind of the same category; guys in their early-30s who are support-level players. I think these guys are worth more to contenders than to also-rans, but the Yankees are contenders so that line of reasoning doesn't work on the Walker deal.
 
Probably depends how this year goes.

But would try to extend DeGrom and Thor, if Mets had bunch of injuries again and fizzled around .500, i'd look to trade one or both and blow it up.
 
Heyward said:
Probably depends how this year goes.

But would try to extend DeGrom and Thor, if Mets had bunch of injuries again and fizzled around .500, i'd look to trade one or both and blow it up.
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why blow up a .500 team with two great pitchers...the only deadweight is Wright and his salary drops the last two years of his contract
 
50PoundHead said:
But as weird as the off-season was, outside of Moustakas signing for below market value, Holland not signing yet, and Lynn getting only a one-year deal, everyone else in the top tier of guys pretty much got paid. I was surprised that Cobb got a contract for as much and as long as it turned out to be.
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I pretty much agree with this. I think we saw some unusual cases of guys not finding a market due to specific circumstances (lack of 3b need, Holland overplaying his hand, and concerns over Lynn’s peripherals), but everyone else got paid almost as expected.
 
nsacpi said:
Moose is the one big aberration. Lynn did get multiyear offers. Walker also got much less than expected.
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Not real surprising honestly. He's a not so young, middling fielder that is a year removed from what I think will be more like an outlier than a breakout.

I wasn't thrilled about the braves signing him, even at a bargain rate.
 
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