Details on Jose Fernandez death

bravesfanMatt said:
Why, you don't think the public will look at him differently now. Seriously, if you don't feel that way, then voice your opinion, but don't be a dick to others because they feel differently than you.
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it's just a lazy ****ing opinion

much less the judgmental side that makes people think the drugs they do isn't as harmful as maybe just the bump he did that night or every once and awhile is somehow worse

**** that person and the mod that put me on ignore and others that try to discredit Jose and what he did cause did some cocaine in his life

i don't advise to do that awful drug imo but it doesn't make him an awful person
 
goldfly said:
work on this sentence and get back to me on whatever the **** it means

i don't want to assume what you are speaking about but it seems to go against your supposed libertarian stance you try to act so proud of
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I'm about personal responsibility. If he and his friends put themselves and others at risk, then that is ****ty.

By the way, you've lost it man
 
bravesnumberone said:
Sad to hear this. His night of dumbassery doesn't change my opinion of him, just based on everything I read about the kid. The thoughts should continue to be with the people who were shattered by his death. A sobering reminder that you don't always get a second chance.
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Well said. Talent and celebrity don't prevent lapses in judgment. Sad situation in a world that has its share of sad situations. Should serve as a reminder to all about mixing chemicals and motorized vehicles.
 
bravesnumberone said:
Sad to hear this. His night of dumbassery doesn't change my opinion of him, just based on everything I read about the kid. The thoughts should continue to be with the people who were shattered by his death. A sobering reminder that you don't always get a second chance.
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Based on the things I've read, I think this is just part of who he was. Doesn't make him a bad guy, we all have positives and negatives to our personalities. But he seemed like a fun-loving kid that sometimes took that to extremes. Even Mattingly said he was a great kid who would piss you off sometimes.
 
goldfly said:
you're an idiot if you think me quoting him is somehow quoting him out of context

let me guess with that logic, you are "trying to make america great again"

**** off too just like the mod that said he was blocking me for his stupid ****
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Based on your response to said quote, you definitely took what he said out of context.
 
goldfly said:
you're an idiot if you think me quoting him is somehow quoting him out of context

let me guess with that logic, you are "trying to make america great again"

**** off too just like the mod that said he was blocking me for his stupid ****
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Holy ****, dude. You only quoted part of his quote, that's the definition of quoting out of context. How the **** does saying that it's a shame that he's going to be labeled as a drug-head make him a "piece of ****"? As a matter of fact, that goes right along with your opinion (and mine, for what it's worth).

You say that you're "not a bitch", but you're throwing a complete bitch fit right now over nothing. Also, the fact that you feel the need to group people who you feel don't agree with you (which, again, isn't even the case) means that you're not worth discussing anything with. No, I don't want to make America great again, but I do want to make this board great again by seeing you GTFO if you can't act like an intelligent human being.
 
I think I said at the beginning that it was like "common sense" would tell you not to do something at night at full throttle and I thought some shenanigans were involved and I got piled on by the whole board. I mentioned no life jacket and then someone said they did not drown and then I came back well either a stuck throttle or someone was not too bright at the wheel. I think it was Cy when he corrected me and I said, "my bad" and carried on and then the s*it hit the fan when I said possible substances were involved.
 
the same that are being judgmental here and thinks this discredits him are the same losers that would tell someone that just lost someone from suicide that that person was "selfish"

**** those type of people
 
goldfly said:
the same that are being judgmental here and thinks this discredits him are the same losers that would tell someone that just lost someone from suicide that that person was "selfish"

**** those type of people
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Dude, msstate7 was AGREEING with you.
 
not entirely

he was saying it wasn't his place to say one way or the other but people will call him that

to answer msstate, yes, i am mad. i am mad at a society that would throw away all the good he did for so many cause he died with coke in his system when he made a bad choice and paid with his life that night

i'm done with this thread and sorry if me being angry upset you or ms or cy or anyone else but i (obviously) get worked up on those 2 instances and it upsets me people would be like this: "Will look back on his death with far less sympathy that the media wants us to feel."

peace
 
50PoundHead said:
Well said. Talent and celebrity don't prevent lapses in judgment. Sad situation in a world that has its share of sad situations. Should serve as a reminder to all about mixing chemicals and motorized vehicles.
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Sorry seems to be the hardest word...
 
goldfly said:
not entirely

he was saying it wasn't his place to say one way or the other but people will call him that

to answer msstate, yes, i am mad. i am mad at a society that would throw away all the good he did for so many cause he died with coke in his system when he made a bad choice and paid with his life that night

i'm done with this thread and sorry if me being angry upset you or ms or cy or anyone else but i (obviously) get worked up on those 2 instances and it upsets me people would be like this: "Will look back on his death with far less sympathy that the media wants us to feel."

peace
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Let me make this clear Goldie, it sucks that he died and left behind a beautiful woman and hopefully a healthy baby as well, but common sense can be targeted. Everyone in this world and life is wired differently. Some think they are superman and nothing can hurt no matter how much you drink, smoke, or snort, you are young and untouchable. But Karma, tragedy, Murphy's Law, Divine Intervention, something can and will happen if you lose that basic giving ability be it God, no god, or conscious to do something foolish like this and pay the ultimate price.

It simply goes back to this......it can be avoided. I know you had to have some personal tragedy in your life for you to go off half cocked and I really don't blame you, but instead of getting on us, understand that we are too hurt and ask why do this at this time in your life, just why? This was no accident like a plane crash, killed by a drunk driver by no fault of his own or being murdered, it was a choice he made at that time.

There is no excuse for that so therefore no one should be the target of your anger in this tragedy as it should be directed at the person who made that choice to live dangerously and ultimately lost.
 
Let's remember that it's completely normal for people to have different opinions and naive to expect everyone to share your particular opinion.

If Fernandez was doing coke it was just a matter of time for him to fail a drug test.
 
I'm a little surprised that everyone didn't already know these guys were drunk and/or stoned. Nobody crashes a boat at 3am with good weather in a harbor they have likely driven through 100 times if they are sober. What mind blowing revelation will come out next, that they were on their way to/from a party when it happened?

Men in their early 20's do stupid things. Sometimes they die as a result. It sucks.

Drunk, stoned, or sober, it doesn't make the situation any less sad.
 
Miami Marlins pitcher Jose Fernandez, drunk and speeding, was behind the wheel and to blame when his boat plowed into a jetty off South Beach, killing two others, police concluded in a report released Thursday.

Had Fernandez lived, he would likely have been charged with a host of crimes including manslaughter, according to the final report by the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article138834953.html#storylink=cpy
 
meh.. we all make bad decisions. some very bad decisions.. not everyone pays the ultimate price though. I don't look at him any differently than most everyone else. There is no evidence anywhere that suggests he was habitual user nor chronically putting others in harm's way. This could have been a night out that just went to **** because chemicals and a 20 something brain are a lethal combo in the wrong situation.
 
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