Did We Give Up on Juan Francisco Too Soon?

It was dumb to get rid of him.

But I'm not sure where he gets the AB's with Johnson starting full time.

I guess as a bench bat, should of kept him but hes similar to BJ and Uggla ala hacker while CJ isn't like that, more of a contact line drive hitter.
 
Juan didn't fit our team. We already have a ton of power, lower avg, high SO, low walk guys. I wish we could have sold higher on him b/c I do think he's talented. He didnt' have any options and CJ's approach is what our team needed.
 
The myth that CJ is a contact hitter is kind of funny. The guy strikes out a lot too and has a lower walk rate than Juan. Sure he has a higher average but a BABIP over .400 will do that for you...
 
didn't say he was a contact hitter.......CJ makes less outs. I get that the BABIP is crazy high....but the braves needed more baserunners, not more power. If Prado is at 2B and Schafer his healthy all year at CF, and Simmons stops trying to hit HRs, then you keep Juan over CJ.
 
BremanFan88 said:
The myth that CJ is a contact hitter is kind of funny. The guy strikes out a lot too and has a lower walk rate than Juan. Sure he has a higher average but a BABIP over .400 will do that for you...
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84 times is a lot?

That's 31st in the NL with a lot of AB's.
 
Never cared for the trade to get Fat Juan. Didn't hate it. Didn't love it.

Juan is just one of those players I don't care to lose. He's never going to be a useful full time starter with a strikeout rate that high and no on base skills to speak of. He is a decent bench piece who could occasionally start and not kill you.
 
BremanFan88 said:
If you're striking out over 20% of the time and don't have a lot of power then you are striking out a lot IMO.
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He's on pace for around 12-15 HR's.

Not a lot but hardly no power,

He's a line drive, gap to gap hitter.
 
His Iso is .145. That isn't a power hitter. There are several middle infielders with more power.
 
Heyward said:
Lol, no he's not.
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Law of averages (aka not on Johnson's best season of his career) I think they're close. Juan is not as good as Johnson offensively but is better defensively. Or at least he was last year. Unfortunately for Juan though, if he starts putting on the pounds, he'll lose any value he may have.
 
He would have taken at bats away from CJ23. He was awful here and there was no room for a player of his calibre on the bench. Good riddance like I said when he was traded away.
 
zitothebrave said:
Law of averages (aka not on Johnson's best season of his career) I think they're close. Juan is not as good as Johnson offensively but is better defensively. Or at least he was last year. Unfortunately for Juan though, if he starts putting on the pounds, he'll lose any value he may have.
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Better defensively? Juan is god-awful at 1B in Milwaukee. They're wondering what the future is there, because it clearly isn't him.

Juan is not a very good player. He isn't better than CJ.
 
gilesfan said:
His Iso is .145. That isn't a power hitter. There are several middle infielders with more power.
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Tulo, Hanley, Uggla, Cano, Utley, Phillips, Hardy, Desmond

Your rhetoric sounds nice, but in reality there are some pretty impressive power hitting middle infielders. It's really not a knock on someone to say that they don't have more power than several middle infielders.
 
thethe said:
He has essentially been an everyday player in MIL.
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How's that working out?

Juan is a dumb player. Any sense at all and he'd have broadened his skillset, stayed in shape and learned some plate discipline. He'd have been an all-star. Instead he's a BP star (watched him hit a couple to the upper deck here in Seattle a week ago).
 
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