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Discussion of Braves 2018 Offseason plans
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That guy posts on braves-nation.com need to get the recruitment team on him and a few others from that site
So the question now is what's next? I have no idea. Are we done or are we addressing the elephant in the room so we can move on.
I would be very dissapointed if we're going in to the season with Tyler Flowers as our cleanup hitter, Camargo as our 3B, and Lane Adams as our starring LF'er.
I can see the rationale behind it and it makes smart business sense, but I'm thinking the Braves are going to lose a lot of fans is they punt again after everything that has happened and the 2nd year in the park. I doubt I'd go to any games this year. I'm sure that would be the mindset of many fans. Surely someone has told AA how fickle Atlanta fans are?
I would be very dissapointed if we're going in to the season with Tyler Flowers as our cleanup hitter, Camargo as our 3B, and Lane Adams as our starring LF'er.
I can see the rationale behind it and it makes smart business sense, but I'm thinking the Braves are going to lose a lot of fans is they punt again after everything that has happened and the 2nd year in the park. I doubt I'd go to any games this year. I'm sure that would be the mindset of many fans. Surely someone has told AA how fickle Atlanta fans are?
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
The opening day lineup as it currently stands is:
1. Inciarte CF
2. Albies 2B
3. Freeman 1B
4. Flowers/Suzuki C
5. Markakis RF
6. Camargo 3B
7. Garcia or Adams LF
8. Swanson SS
When Acuna gets called up, I think it will initially look like this:
1. Inciarte
2. Albies
3. Freeman
4. Flowers/Suzuki
5. Markakis
6. Acuna
7. Camargo
8. Swanson
I would add a left handed bat (at about 4M), who can be our primary pinch hitter and also platoon with either Garcia or Adams in left during the period before Acuna is called up.
I don't know what we're going to do. If it were me I'd still do my original plan and trade Markakis and trade for couple of guys like Grichuk and Joc. So you could have the corners convered until Acuna is called up and Joc or Grichuk becomes your 4th OF'er. Admittedly I have no idea what it would take to trade for those guys or similar players. Maybe you just keep Markakis and trade for one of those guys who can play a corner and move to 4th OF once Acuna is called up.
I'm not sure we keep Markakis though. It doesn't fit the defense narrative AA has spit from the beginning.
I'm not sure we keep Markakis though. It doesn't fit the defense narrative AA has spit from the beginning.
How do you plan to pay for him?
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I think Markakis is okay in LF where his arm would play a bit better. That said, I'm curious to see what the Dodgers do with Joc Pederson and what his market will be if they try to move him. He's an interesting player especially if he can maintain his improved contact rate.
Yes, Nick could be ok in LF, but if we get a major league caliber corner OF'er to hold down the fort while Acuna is down then we have Nick on the bench when Acuna comes up. That's partly why I think we trade him. He's well respected and I don't see Snit sitting him on the bench. We should trade him to a team where he can play every day for the season. That also means we have to get 2 OF's, but I think that's what we should do anyways to hedge our bets.
Perhaps have Cleveland eat some of the salary for a better prospect return?
AA already gave us the moon by figuring out how to unload Kemp - asking him to be able to move both (without having to eat a fair amount of Nick's money) is probably asking a little too much.
I wonder if DMGM and AA are chummy enough that we could ship them Markakis and an arm for Herrera? That would save you ~ $2.2 million. Then you could trade Vizcaino for Grichuk. That would save you another $900,000. At that point, you'd be at ~$111,675,000.
You'd then be in a position to try to work something out with the Marlins for Prado/Barraclough or sign Nunez and another OF to 1 year deals.
UNCBlue012
Well-known member
Not interested personally - at this point, I think AA's looking for just about every way to hold onto the prospects (rightfully so IMO) unless a deal for Yelich/Archer/Fulmer drops into his lap.
I had given some thought to trying that with Kipnis earlier in the winter, but now that AA's been able to clear the books for next year, I wouldn't add a significant salary that doesn't expire after this season unless you were getting an "Ace".
The Marlins have handled things so badly that they might as well do a complete tear down. They are stuck betwen a rock and a hard place. Nobody wants to be there, but if you trade players cause they're not happy then every player is going to request a trade and then you've lost the team and any leverage you may have had with other teams.
I say go ahead and blow it up
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
I agree with this sentiment. It would be different if the Braves projected as an 85-win team with a better than average shot at reaching the playoffs, but with minor league depth so thin, I think he is likely tilting toward riding through the year with what we have in the minors.
Hudson2
Well-known member
A Yelich trade would be geared more towards 2019 and beyond then being a playoff team next year, but with him on the team it would put us a lot closer than we are now. If a trade for him comes up I hope that AA pulls the trigger. It will definitely weaken our farm system but it wouldn’t kill it. We would still have a very strong minor league to fall back on especially with the 8th pick coming.
Southcack77
Well-known member
Yelich would be a "win soon" move.
I may be in the minority, but I don't see this as a time to sit and wait on 2019. It is being talked about like AA is now waiting with his pile of $$ on the FA class next year. While that sounds exciting, when have the Braves ever (in recent times) attracked big time FAs? Why would Harper or Manchado or Dondlason come to the ATL? I think that is the pipe dream that leaves us holding the bag. Remeber Derek Lowe?
I feel like now that he has made financial flexibility, he has to use the minors to strike on trade options with long term deals.
Yelich is the obvious choice...But with an outfield of Yelich (5 years), Ender (5 Years), Acuna (for life) we are set at OF for a while. Yelich would be the replacement of Markakis this year (salary wise).
We then need to find a 3B of the near and long term future. Could you talk to a Manchado about an trade extension. If you are willing to pay him 30+ x 10 years next summer, how about you agree this year on the extension and trade for him. The talk is a couple SP could get it done. How about a Allard, Anderson, Fried package? Maybe not, but I trust something is out there.
The real financial flexibility we have is Ender, Albies, Acuna, Gohara, Newk, Swanson, Carmargo, Allard, Soroka, Wright, etc will not make any money for 5 years.
Don't let financial flexibility lull you into thinking ATL became the destination for bi time talent. Never has been, never will be.
I feel like now that he has made financial flexibility, he has to use the minors to strike on trade options with long term deals.
Yelich is the obvious choice...But with an outfield of Yelich (5 years), Ender (5 Years), Acuna (for life) we are set at OF for a while. Yelich would be the replacement of Markakis this year (salary wise).
We then need to find a 3B of the near and long term future. Could you talk to a Manchado about an trade extension. If you are willing to pay him 30+ x 10 years next summer, how about you agree this year on the extension and trade for him. The talk is a couple SP could get it done. How about a Allard, Anderson, Fried package? Maybe not, but I trust something is out there.
The real financial flexibility we have is Ender, Albies, Acuna, Gohara, Newk, Swanson, Carmargo, Allard, Soroka, Wright, etc will not make any money for 5 years.
Don't let financial flexibility lull you into thinking ATL became the destination for bi time talent. Never has been, never will be.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
the south has never cared for that kind of talent. Going to take some time for us to get used to it