Discussion of Braves 2018 Offseason plans

nsacpi said:
I think that's the way to go. If things go according to plan in a couple years we will have an Elite Six and everyone else will be a supporting player and it really doesn't matter much who those guys are.
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Guessing yours is Freeman/Acuna/Albies/Ender/Soroka/Gohara?

Am I right?
 
How about we fill two needs with one trade. Prado (full salary) and Baraclough for a middling prospect. Prado has only 2 years left, so all of those worried about not blocking Riley can rest easy. Baraclough has four years of control left and could pitch the 7th or 8th. Or perhaps even close.
 
nsacpi said:
How about we fill two needs with one trade. Prado (full salary) and Baraclough for a middling prospect. Prado has only 2 years left, so all of those worried about not blocking Riley can rest easy. Baraclough has four years of control left and could pitch the 7th or 8th. Or perhaps even close.
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Has his name been given as a guy they would use to unload salary?
 
thethe said:
Has his name been given as a guy they would use to unload salary?
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I don't think Baraclough has figured in the discussion since he doesn't have a high salary. The idea is to facilitate moving a contract (Prado's) that is under water.
 
nsacpi said:
I don't think Baraclough has figured in the discussion since he doesn't have a high salary. The idea is to facilitate moving a contract (Prado's) that is under water.
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It's an out of the box idea, which of course is what you're good at. I like it.
 
Russ2dollas said:
Frazier I’m down with is it’s 2 years. 3 max

I hate moose. Are we going to give up another pick for a low obp guy?

I would stay. I would play comargo and Ruiz. Kemp can be cut or only be the worlds most expensive ph.

Use the money to take on a bad deal for talent.

But we won’t do that. Klaw said in chat that aa relives in keeping elite guys and trading the rest. We will make three big trades and get older. I hate it.
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How much of this comment was from KLaw? Did he say the Braves will make 3 big trades? If so, was it speculation (meaningless from him), or based on a source (slightly less meaningless from him)?

The only truly elite guys (FV 60+) in the minors are Acuna and Wright, so that’s a lot of extra trade chips to make 3 big trades.

If those 3 trades bring back Prado, Ozuna, Odorizzi and a BP arm the Braves are going to get very good very quickly.
 
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/nl-east-notes-nationals-galvis-hernandez-braves.html

The Braves have, somewhat surprisingly, “checked around about shortstops,”

Get a SS for 1 year just to send Swanson back to AAA for development?

Sign Cozart and use Swanson as trade bait?

The same slow market that would allow the Braves to acquire a SS for a reasonable cost will also make the return on Swanson be underwhelming, so I can’t imagine the idea is to trade him.
 
Enscheff said:
How much of this comment was from KLaw? Did he say the Braves will make 3 big trades? If so, was it speculation (meaningless from him), or based on a source (slightly less meaningless from him)?

The only truly elite guys (FV 60+) in the minors are Acuna and Wright, so that’s a lot of extra trade chips to make 3 big trades.

If those 3 trades bring back Prado, Ozuna, Odorizzi and a BP arm the Braves are going to get very good very quickly.
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All Klaw said was that aa believes in keeping the elite and moving the rest for the mlb club
 
If we’re looking in to Cozart I’d think it would be for 3B, but it would be a good insurance plan if Dansby does struggle.

I’d like to look at Neil Walker for the same reason. If he could play 3B and be able to move to 2B with Albies to SS if needed that would provide some value. He also played some 1B last year.

Regardless, I like the idea of having some guys who will give us some options.

We also need to find another super sub.
 
I was for him getting called up. He played well in 2016 but clearly there were things he still had to learn.
 
thethe said:
That's a damming report. Basically AA saying the braves bungled Swanson.
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That's not exactly edgy or out there.

They promoted someone who wasn't hitting AA pitching.

They should have sent him down and kept him down last season to at least get back the year of control they threw away. But instead they brought him after a few days. Pretty much bungled all around.
 
Southcack77 said:
They promoted someone who wasn't hitting AA pitching.
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For some reason, people find it convenient to forget that. He was called up after 377 PAs in AA in which he posted a .261/.342/.402 slash line. With a fairly normal-looking BABIP of .309. That's not bad. But it also was not the kind of performance that called for aggressive promotion. And then there is the whole service time matter, which is not trivial
 
I'm not convinced yet this is the reason we're looking at SS (if in fact we really are). It could be to make one a 3B or we could be looking for a super sub.

But, I do have a question on service time. If we decided to start Swanson in AAA what would the benefits be on his service time? I know the clock has started, but how could we manipulate the system without keeping him down there the whole season?
 
thethe said:
I was for him getting called up. He played well in 2016 but clearly there were things he still had to learn.
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I was totally against it due to Albies performing better and there wasn't a need to have him in the majors. Another year to develop with Albies would have been ideal.
 
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