DUI Checkpoint Video

Maybe I'm just biased because I've been racially profiled by cops on more than one occasion (I'm sure the reason I was pulled over in the story above, had some to do with the fact I drive a 2002 Pontiac Grand Am with tinted windows... which as my black and white friends on the force have told me is a warning sign for drug dealer car).

Also, giles still doesn't understand how being a minority male and being outnumbered against 8 cops, is not the same as being a white female presumably in her 30's.

I've seen the way some white cops here treat black folks. I'm not even black and I feel offended when I see it sometimes. lol
 
That is sad Sav, I had the same thing happened to me but it was worse. DWB with a white womEn in the car (designated driver) get you harsher treatment. I posted about this in the Scout's forum a few years ago. If I did anything to provoke them it would've been another Rodney King fiasco, but in Iowa.
 
I'm torn on this.

On the one hand, I hate, loathe, and despise obnxious, know-it-all, troublemaking punks. I want to hit them all with a car.

On the other hand, I'm sick and freaking tired of abusive authority taking what it wants without regard to the people that pay them and entrust them with power.

i have no doubt that most cops are good men. But still, even they do their best to take advantage of people's fear, respect and lack of knowledge. So, even the good ones are somewhat suspect. There's got to be a way to stand up for your rights without being like these dickhead kids just stirring the pot.

or maybe we need to stir the pot until it boils over...

(Hi, Obama. I know you're reading this.)
 
Metaphysicist said:
SAV wishes he was black, but he only chose the thug life, it did not choose him.
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Growing up asian, I loved math and crunching numbers. So when my teacher lectured our class (24 black kids, 1 mexican, and 1 asian) one day she said "Don't become another statistic", I immediately felt like I needed to truly be one with the numbers, so I chose the thug life so I could one day become another statistic.
 
BravesFanInSAV said:
Maybe I'm just biased because I've been racially profiled by cops on more than one occasion (I'm sure the reason I was pulled over in the story above, had some to do with the fact I drive a 2002 Pontiac Grand Am with tinted windows... which as my black and white friends on the force have told me is a warning sign for drug dealer car).

Also, giles still doesn't understand how being a minority male and being outnumbered against 8 cops, is not the same as being a white female presumably in her 30's.

I've seen the way some white cops here treat black folks. I'm not even black and I feel offended when I see it sometimes. lol
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LOL off asians being considered minorities. Woah is me. Did you read why I put? My wife was thrown to the ground with a gun in her face. Is that scary enough?
 
gilesfan said:
LOL off asians being considered minorities. Woah is me. Did you read why I put? My wife was thrown to the ground with a gun in her face. Is that scary enough?
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And you're cool with your wife being thrown to the ground with a gun in her face?
 
BravesFanInSAV said:
Growing up asian, I loved math and crunching numbers. So when my teacher lectured our class (24 black kids, 1 mexican, and 1 asian) one day she said "Don't become another statistic", I immediately felt like I needed to truly be one with the numbers, so I chose the thug life so I could one day become another statistic.
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After you list your height and weight, I can believe it.
 
sturg33 said:
And you're cool with your wife being thrown to the ground with a gun in her face?
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hmmm. good question. I wish it wouldn't have happened obviously. But, the cops thought they had someone they were looking for and made a mistake. No one was injured (thank goodness)

So I guess, I don't like it, but accept it because its the society I choose to live in.
 
zitothebrave said:
What exactly did he say that was wrong? Police don't have a right to check your license and registration if you're not being pulled over for a violation, you can refuse to talk to the police if you choose. You can tell the officer that you refuse to answer questions without legal council, and many more things. Unfortunately the vagueness of the SC ruling on DUI checkpoints makes it unfairly beneficial towards cops, if you follow your constitutional rights, officers can pull you over and then take them away.
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Asking for your ID is not illegal, for one.
 
If you don't have anything to worry about why not just give him your Id? The difference in time between a cop asking for your Id and you being an ass and arguing about it or just giving him your id and your id is clean so he gives it back and you can leave is negligible.
 
zitothebrave said:
Neither is refusing to present one. You only have to present one if you are pulled over for a violation. For example if you smell like booze then they can.
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Identification is required by law in order to be driving a motor vehicle. So while technically you are not legally required to present an id, failure to to do so is obviously enough for them to detain you.

And police can pull you over for any reason they deem as "suspicious behavior." And there nothing in the law that really classifies what suspicious behavior is. They can say they smell booze on you whether you've been drinking or not. Now in a court of law the cops argument may not hold up, but that doesn't mean what he did was illegal.
 
Krgrecw said:
If you don't have anything to worry about why not just give him your Id? The difference in time between a cop asking for your Id and you being an ass and arguing about it or just giving him your id and your id is clean so he gives it back and you can leave is negligible.
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LOL... so anytime a policeman demands to come into your house without a warrant... You should not ask questions you should always let them in and let them do whatever you want. You have nothing to hide!
 
I think there's a difference between a cop stopping you at a checkpoint and wanting to see your license and a cop knocking on your door and demanding to get in your house for no reason
 
Krgrecw said:
If you don't have anything to worry about why not just give him your Id? The difference in time between a cop asking for your Id and you being an ass and arguing about it or just giving him your id and your id is clean so he gives it back and you can leave is negligible.
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The topic is about how people can't use their rights anymore because laws have allowed the cops to completely get around them. You're arguing that it's easier to just comply with the cops whether they are in their rights or not. Which is absolutely true but it defeats the purpose of this subject and that kind of thinking only further allows our rights to be taken away.
 
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