Early ZiPs Puts Braves at 80 Wins

At the start of 2017, I'd have bet a month's pay that we'd win 75 games. Glad I didn't bet. I'm done with win expectations until we actually aren't flirting with 100 losses late in September.
 
Only 5 months before the Opening Day roster will be finalized.

The caveat is right there:

As Szymborski points out, these early projections don’t take into account that the Marlins are likely to deal Giancarlo Stanton or any other potential acquisitions or moves. They are a simple snap shot of where teams stand as they enter the offseason. They don’t necessarily mean anything, but they are fun to talk about.
 
At the start of 2017, I'd have bet a month's pay that we'd win 75 games. Glad I didn't bet. I'm done with win expectations until we actually aren't flirting with 100 losses late in September.

Reasonable but three reasons why I think this year is different:

1) Young positional talent (Acuna/Albies/Freeman/Inciarte/Camargo) is very enticing and could produce a cumulative WAR of 20-25.
2) Young starting pitching. Newcomb went under the radar last year and came on as he got more comfortable as the season progressed. We all saw Gohara - First legit #1 starter out of the system since Hanson (RIP). We all know how I feel about Fried. Teheran is still a solid MOR picher and Folty can either be an ACE or a bullpen arm. Either way - we have better pitching now than we did in quite some time.
3) Defense. Corner OF defense aside I think our defense will be stout next season.
 
The caveat is right there:

In the case of the Braves, we presumably will be able to add a couple more wins through off-season moves...that's without substantial "borrowing from the future"...i imagine there might be some temptation to do that this off-season
 
Reasonable but three reasons why I think this year is different:

1) Young positional talent (Acuna/Albies/Freeman/Inciarte/Camargo) is very enticing and could produce a cumulative WAR of 20-25.
2) Young starting pitching. Newcomb went under the radar last year and came on as he got more comfortable as the season progressed. We all saw Gohara - First legit #1 starter out of the system since Hanson (RIP). We all know how I feel about Fried. Teheran is still a solid MOR picher and Folty can either be an ACE or a bullpen arm. Either way - we have better pitching now than we did in quite some time.
3) Defense. Corner OF defense aside I think our defense will be stout next season.

Yeah...that's an optimistic but not crazy optimistic scenario...plus there is the late blooming catching duo
 
Yeah...that's an optimistic but not crazy optimistic scenario...plus there is the late blooming catching duo

I think there are lots of reasons to be optimistic about 2018. Lots of great developments in 2017 which pave the way for a successful future.
 
The caveat is right there:

It's more than just Stanton. Several roster moves to occur over this time and then players have to be evaluated through ST, among other factors. Granted they have to write about *something* to draw traffic to their site, but this exercise would be much more meaningful around mid-March.
 
In the case of the Braves, we presumably will be able to add a couple more wins through off-season moves...that's without substantial "borrowing from the future"...i imagine there might be some temptation to do that this off-season

Or what he just said!
 
It's more than just Stanton. Several roster moves to occur over this time and then players have to be evaluated through ST, among other factors. Granted they have to write about *something* to draw traffic to their site, but this exercise would be much more meaningful around mid-March.

I think most people with half a brain understand this. Why are you upset that this was put out now? Yes, sites like ESPN have to constantly put up articles like this to draw traffic. It's the same thing as the top 25 after the college football championship.
 
It's more than just Stanton. Several roster moves to occur over this time and then players have to be evaluated through ST, among other factors. Granted they have to write about *something* to draw traffic to their site, but this exercise would be much more meaningful around mid-March.

Of course it's more than just Stanton; that was simply one example of a likely change. The real caveat was this: "They [these projections] are a simple snap shot of where teams stand as they enter the offseason."
 
Someone in another thread had us winning 120 games or close to that. I am rolling with that to make this dumpster fire more tolerable.
 
Someone in another thread had us winning 120 games or close to that. I am rolling with that to make this dumpster fire more tolerable.

That was me but looking back it could have been a little conservative. At this point with our team, anything less than 130 would be a disappointment
 
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