Economics Thread

nsacpi said:
this study that looks at living standards adjusted by things like cost of housing

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econr...a-20200528.htm

top 10: MN, MA, ND, CT, SD, NH, NE, NJ, NY, VT

bottom 10: MS, AL, OK, LA, AR, KY, TN, WV, SC, GA
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Yes, just housing.

The Census Bureau's method that i showed you covers ALL of the economic factors. I guess the Census Bureau is a a right wing outfit.

Man, talk about living in denial.
 
I guess California losing the most population of any state is just BS too.

There is a good reason why they are losing their poulation.
 
The same study looks at welfare growth or improvement over time.

The top 10: SD, RI, MD, CT, CA, NJ, VA, PA, NE, WY

The bottom 10: NM, AL, ME, KY, CO, MO, KS, OK, UT, GA
 
Garmel said:
I guess California losing the most population of any state is just BS too.

There is a good reason why they are losing their poulation.
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It loses population mainly because it has shot itself in the foot with overly restricting permitting rules that have created a housing crisis. This has driven away older, less productive and less educated people. There was an usual period post-covid where better educated people were leaving too. But the most recent data show migration trends among young highly educated people once again turning positive.

I certainly don't think this self-imposed housing crisis is a good thang. It is a black mark against the state and they need to find ways to fix it.

Otoh people like my mom are happy that their house has turned into a pot of gold. I'll be visiting her next week and will be happy to report on conditions on the ground in California.
 
nsacpi said:
eh i'm not one making the claim California is leading the country in poverty rates

pot kettle and all that jazz
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It's right there in black and white from the Census Bureau. When you factor in COL it's a ****hole where all the money is in the hands a of a few people.

You're a prime example why falling for propaganda is dangerous. Even when shown facts you can't accept it.
 
nsacpi said:
Here's an actual for real link to census bureau data and analysis of poverty by state:

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2023/acs/acsbr-016.pdf

and for any of y'all that are visual learners there's a nice picture on page 3

pro tip: when it says "census.gov" that be the real deal
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Did you not notice that all of the links I showed you says that it's straight from the Census Bureau?

There's only one Census Bureau, dude.

The stats you're showing is just the plain old poverty rate without the full COL.

The other one is called the Supplemental Poverty Measure (SPM) which measures everything.

Cal has the highest poverty, highest unemployment and are losing the most population of any state.

Quit trying to Cajun me because it won't work.
 
Garmel said:
Did you not notice that all of the links I showed you says that it's straight from the Census Bureau?

There's only one Census Bureau, dude.

The stats you're showing is just the plain old poverty rate without the full COL.

The other one is called the Supplemental Poverty Measure (SPM) which measures everything.

Cal has the highest poverty, highest unemployment and are losing the most population of any state.

Quit trying to Cajun me because it won't work.
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yeah...so show me a link to census.gov

i guess that's asking for too much
 
meanwhile i've been able to find plenty of links to data from organizations like the Census Bureau and the Federal Reserve looking at these issues

but hey not everyone has to do thangs by my rules
 
the federal reserve study i cited is probably the most thorough and comprehensive look living standards and also trends in living standards...it's a little dated which is a shame...but their approach is the best one i've seen so far
 
nsacpi said:
i wasn't too lazy to find this link

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2023/acs/acsbr-016.pdf

you gotta do better man
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Still using older methods. Dude, you can't bull**** your way out of this.

Took me about a minute to find this. For an academic with a PhD you're pretty damn worthless. I guess now you're going to complain it's only in alphabetic order. However, you can plainly see California's 13.2%. Look on page 47.

Do you need me to help you read it as well?

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2023/demo/p60-280.pdf
 
Garmel said:
Still using older methods. Dude, you can't bull**** your way out of this.

Took me about a minute to find this. For an academic with a PhD you're pretty damn worthless. I guess now you're going to complain it's only in alphabetic order. However, you can plainly see California's 13.2%. Look on page 47.

Do you need me to help you read it as well?

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2023/demo/p60-280.pdf
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ok...well done...so you also believe that Florida has the second highest poverty rate in the country...that's what your metric of choice shows...hopefully deSantis and Newsom will get together and figure out a solution
 
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