Economics Thread

[mqt]

It’s the whole world - that’s a lot of people. I’d trade barriers (not just tariffs) are taken down then even slight incremental increases in available goods dramatically improves American exporters positions

If trade barriers are taken down, all the other countries that already make things cheaper will also have improved positions.

 

[thethe]

China could say the same exact same thing about us.

Oh - and what is their argument?

 

[thethe]

If trade barriers are taken down, all the other countries that already make things cheaper will also have improved positions.

I don’t care if trade barriers stay up beteeen other countries. This is about the US buying all goods propping up countries and them not reciprocating in good faith.

 

[mqt]

I think at its core the reason this is shitty economic policy is that it’s treating making and buying things as an adversarial relationship on all fronts, when the aim should be cooperative for the most part.

 

[mqt]

Oh - and what is their argument?

That they are a sovereign nation that is allowed to have its own trade interests?

 

[mqt]

I don’t care if trade barriers stay up beteeen other countries. This is about the US buying all goods propping up countries and them not reciprocating in good faith.

We have money and services, other countries have cheap goods. It ain’t fucking rocket science.

And I’m not asking you to care about other barriers between countries, but to acknowledge they’d likely come down too.

 

[thethe]

I think at its core the reason this is shitty economic policy is that it’s treating making and buying things as an adversarial relationship on all fronts, when the aim should be cooperative for the most part.

Oh - WHat was the CCP doing this whole time?

And make no mistake, this is all about the CCP.

Its funny that all of a sudden the CCP is an innocent actor in this war.

 

[thethe]

That they are a sovereign nation that is allowed to have its own trade interests?

Like stealing IP?

Like forcing JV's on any company that does business there?

Do you even hear how you are somehow defending the CCP's predatory actions or that we should just allow them to continue as we head to the age of AI/RObots?

 

[thethe]

We have money and services, other countries have cheap goods. It ain’t fucking rocket science.

And I’m not asking you to care about other barriers between countries, but to acknowledge they’d likely come down too.

And then you have a war or a disastrous event and out money means absolutely nothing.

What a terrible take.

 

[mqt]

Oh - WHat was the CCP doing this whole time?

And make no mistake, this is all about the CCP.

It’s funny that all of a sudden the CCP is an innocent actor in this war.

Was it Sun Tzu that suggested waging war by attacking every one of your allies and your own people simultaneously to weaken your enemy?

 

[thethe]

Was it Sun Tzu that suggested waging war by attacking every one of your allies and your own people simultaneously to weaken your enemy?

All I see is strengthened trade alliances - So your statement is well just wrong.

Nobody wants to partner with the CCP because they know what they do.

Everyone wants to be part of the US and thats why they came to us willing to negotiate on trade.

 

[mqt]

And then you have a war or a disastrous event and out money means absolutely nothing.

What a terrible take.

Ah, so all of this is to prepare for the eventual war effort? We should all have more expensive things under the President of Peace because the war machine needs to be fed domestically?

 

[thethe]

Ah, so all of this is to prepare for the eventual war effort? We should all have more expensive things under the President of Peace because the war machine needs to be fed domestically?

CCP released a virus on the world without thinking twice.

Sometimes there are world actors so evil it doesn't matter who the president is.

Everyone pretends Putin is evil incarniate. Take Putin to the nth degree and that is Xi.

Sure, as long as we allow the CCP to rob the world and get AI dominance they won't release another pandemic.

Just willful ignorance at this comment.

 

[mqt]

All I see is strengthened trade alliances - So your statement is well just wrong.

Nobody wants to partner with the CCP because they know what they do.

Everyone wants to be part of the US and thats why they came to us willing to negotiate on trade.

Yeah, other countries just fucking *love* their trade alliance with us right now. Right now, we are the trade partner nobody wants. We are the country that can’t be trusted because the President of the United States can and apparently will wage economic war on the whole world.

 

[thethe]

Yeah, other countries just fucking *love* their trade alliance with us right now. Right now, we are the trade partner nobody wants. We are the country that can’t be trusted because the President of the United States can and apparently will wage economic war on the whole world.

Says who?

The countries that came to the president and his team immediately to talk terms of a deal?

Its amazing you take the negative position immediately on the US but the CCP is just fine.

What a joke. True colors.

 

[mqt]

CCP released a virus on the world without thinking twice.

Sometimes there are world actors so evil it doesn't matter who the president is.

Everyone pretends Putin is evil incarniate. Take Putin to the nth degree and that is Xi.

Just willful ignorance at this comment.

This is the problem with how you consume news. You extrapolate from one event (any hidden details about the origin of COVID) to draw outrageous conclusions (it was a bioweapon deliberately released by China onto the world).

 

[mqt]

Says who?

The countries that came to the president and his team immediately to talk terms of a deal?

Its amazing you take the negative position immediately on the US but the CCP is just fine.

What a joke. True colors.

If the United States dropped a bomb on London and declared war on the UK, would it be a positive sign of UK support for the US war effort if they got on the phone and asked us to make a deal for peace?

 

[thethe]

This is the problem with how you consume news. You extrapolate from one event (any hidden details about the origin of COVID) to draw outrageous conclusions (it was a bioweapon deliberately released by China onto the world).

This is your problem - You dont' se obvious things.

CCP was getting crushed in trade discussions iwth the US while HK protests were trending towards liberation of the island.

So convenient that a virus was released that shut the world down. Not like the communists have any history of killing their own people or current history of ruling with an iron fist.

What a buffoon if you don't think it was intentionally released. Even recent information shows that US troops got sick when there for the olympics.

 

[thethe]

If the United States dropped a bomb on London and declared war on the UK, would it be a positive sign of UK support for the US war effort if they got on the phone and asked us to make a deal for peace?

Yes - This is exactly the same thing.

EXACTLY!

 

[thethe]

I find it amazing that mqt takes the standard position that Trump is evil and the CCP is 'neutral'?