Economics Thread

mqt said:
Making it less free globally is not the direction I’d take to try to address that fact.
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When it ends up being a forcing function for trade barriers to be taken down (aside from the ccp) we will revisit this.

So much crow will have to be eaten.
 
If you have the stomach, now might be a decent time to jump in the market and to front run Fed stimulus.

I’ve been slowly buying dips to DCA.
 
mqt said:
Just saying I don’t have to guess since we’re just doing it here.
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And the CCP definitely wouldn't do anything more aggressive than the US right?

'Lab Leaks' that you definitely believe were just completely accidental despite greatly benefitting the CCP.
 
thethe said:
Effective rate is not relevant to a seller on a product that is directly tariffed.

Do we have free trade with the CCP? What about non-tariff barriers? We should just stand by while CCP steals our IP and forces JV's on any business?
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Yes we have basically free trade with China bc we can buy goods from them with little to no barriers.

Could it be "freer"? Sure. Drop the tarrifs to zero. Could my grocery store trade be freer? Sure, drop the sales tax
 
sturg33 said:
Yes we have basically free trade with China bc we can buy goods from them with little to no barriers.

Could it be "freer"? Sure. Drop the tarrifs to zero. Could my grocery store trade be freer? Sure, drop the sales tax
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So you base free on a one side basis?

Got it.

To say we have 'basically' free tarde with China is laughable and focusing on just tariffs is even more laughable in your determination.
 
chop2chip said:
If you have the stomach, now might be a decent time to jump in the market and to front run Fed stimulus.

I’ve been slowly buying dips to DCA.
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I've been buying all week. We've seen this scene before. Fed will intervene. Money will be printed. Trump will concede while claiming victory. Markets will soar. Poor people will suffer

Rinse repeat
 
thethe said:
So you base free on a one side basis?

Got it.

To say we have 'basically' free tarde with China is laughable and focusing on just tariffs is even more laughable in your determination.
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Yes we fundamentally disagree. You - a socialist - want a centrally planned beuarocracy to decide what terms a free American can choose to do with his money.

I want access to all markets with as minimal friction as possible. Buyer and seller.

Unfortunately Trump has decided to add enormous friction to Americans ability to freely trade
 
sturg33 said:
Yes we fundamentally disagree. You - a socialist - want a centrally planned beuarocracy to decide what terms a free American can choose to do with his money.

I want access to all markets with as minimal friction as possible. Buyer and seller.

Unfortunately Trump has decided to add enormous friction to Americans ability to freely trade
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You just don't care about what the CCP charges on any exporters or how they steal IP.

Got it - As long as you get your cheap goods!

FREE TRADE!
 
thethe said:
You just don't care about what the CCP charges on any exporters or how they steal IP.

Got it - As long as you get your cheap goods!

FREE TRADE!
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Are you able to argue without leaping into hysterics? It's like arguing with a PMSing woman

Yes I care about stealing IP. Businesses should sell them that acess if they want to protect it

But i still want to give thethe access to the Chinese markets in your freedom
 
sturg33 said:
Are you able to argue without leaping into hysterics? It's like arguing with a PMSing woman

Yes I care about stealing IP. Businesses should sell them that acess if they want to protect it

But i still want to give thethe access to the Chinese markets in your freedom
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So you want to reward the CCP for those actions.

I very much understand what you support.

You can deflect with your childish remark but the reality is you are perfectly ok with what hte CCP does as long as you get cheaper T-Shirts. Your price to sell yourself is cheap....even with all your money.

SAD
 
thethe said:
So you want to reward the CCP for those actions.

I very much understand what you support.

You can deflect with your childish remark but the reality is you are perfectly ok with what hte CCP does as long as you get cheaper T-Shirts. Your price to sell yourself is cheap....even with all your money.

SAD
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So why not just place an embargo on them? Why do you support any trade with them?
 
sturg33 said:
So why not just place an embargo on them? Why do you support any trade with them?
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I don't support trade with them - Have you been around here for a while?

I am not going to get my wish but I absolutely do not support trade iwth the CCP.
 
acesfull86 said:
Interested to see what the price is to cleanse your conscience of “supporting slave labor.” Is it a reciprocal tariff? 25%? 150%? Let’s find out…
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For you guys its nothing, as long as you get cheap crap from them.

For me, its putting as much pressure to take out the CCP so the people of China can be free.

Priorities.
 
thethe said:
I don't support trade with them - Have you been around here for a while?

I am not going to get my wish but I absolutely do not support trade iwth the CCP.
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So then you agree that Trump is rewarding them for their actions, and supports their slave labor in order to get cheaper goods.

Shouldn't that mean you want him out of office?

Do you buy things made in China. By the way?
 
sturg33 said:
So then you agree that Trump is rewarding them for their actions, and supports their slave labor in order to get cheaper goods.

Shouldn't that mean you want him out of office?

Do you buy things made in China. By the way?
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I agree that Trump will not do what I want in this avenue

My wife buys everyrhing and she doesn't care about that despite me telling her to stop.

So yes, I contribute to slave labor.

I'd be happy to spend more on other products though as I am fortunate to have lots of disrectionary dollars.
 
thethe said:
I agree that Trump will not do what I want in this avenue

My wife buys everyrhing and she doesn't care about that despite me telling her to stop.

So yes, I contribute to slave labor.

I'd be happy to spend more on other products though as I am fortunate to have lots of disrectionary dollars.
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Do you tell your wife she has sold her soul and supports child slave labor and that she will sell herself for cheap goods?

You spend a lot of time hysterically yelling at strangers but why don't you actually try to live your morals rather than virtue signal?
 
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