Economics Thread


Please, Mr. President, I can’t take all this winning (making me pay 15% more for goods from Europe).
I’m not correcting you to be pedantic, but because Mag-tards will stand on guard with I told you so’s when inflation doesn’t go up 15%. I don’t want them to have any easy outs.

But it’s a tax on the COGS of which 90% will be born by a combination of American consumers and importers (based off what we’ve seen so far). So the actual inflation hit will be closer to 1-2% (with American importers likely cut American jobs to save margins) . Yippee for us
 
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I’m not correcting you to be pedantic, but because Mag-tards will stand on guard with I told you so’s when inflation doesn’t go up 15%. I don’t want them to have any easy outs.

But it’s a tax on the COGS of which 90% will be born by a combination of American consumers and importers (based off what we’ve seen so far). So the actual inflation hit will be closer to 1-2%. Yippee for us
Yeah, I was being lazy here and know this is the case, but your point is well taken.
 
I’m not correcting you to be pedantic, but because Mag-tards will stand on guard with I told you so’s when inflation doesn’t go up 15%. I don’t want them to have any easy outs.

But it’s a tax on the COGS of which 90% will be born by a combination of American consumers and importers (based off what we’ve seen so far). So the actual inflation hit will be closer to 1-2% (with American importers likely cut American jobs to save margins) . Yippee for us
I'm going to double down on the pedantry. The incidence is shared by consumers, importers/retailers and the producers whatever country they are in. More importantly there is a loss of economic activity and welfare loss (those dreaded deadweight loss triangles). The loss of efficiency includes shifting resources to produce goods we previously imported.
 
I remember thethe hating this guy for supporting RDS. Now he's a shill

But, can any magadonian explain to me how the exporting country pays the tarrif? I can only think of 2 options...

1. Their business reduces the wholesale cost to offset the tarrif, eating their businesses margin

2. The country writes the US treasury a check, which then gets refunded back to US businesses?

Is there any other way? If not, which of the above is correct

 
Costs are up and manufacturing and retail employment is down. And that’s before many tariffs even have gone into full effect.
yeah for sure - they are all about 15% because it’s a tax!!!

Funny how your increased costs aren’t showing up in the data and it’s most likely regular inflation (that’s slowing). Meanwhile, real wages are up so Americans have higher purchasing power net net.
 

*sighs heavily*

They cannot just do that. It puts the price above equilibrium which impacts quantity demanded, which is bad for them… and us.
More bad for them. Their whole economy relies upon production. Thats what Trump and his team understand and economists have a blind spot to.

So more of the profit of the transaction shifts to the US. It’s a beautiful thing.
 
More bad for them. Their whole economy relies upon production. Thats what Trump and his team understand and economists have a blind spot to.

So more of the profit of the transaction shifts to the US. It’s a beautiful thing.
More bad for them implies still bad for us. A lose-lose situation isn’t to be celebrated simply because we aren’t the primary victims.
 
More bad for them implies still bad for us. A lose-lose situation isn’t to be celebrated simply because we aren’t the primary victims.
No it doesn’t because they are under severe pressure to continue the levels of production and therefore reduce costs to bring net end cost after tariff to close to previous levels. Therefore, more profit of the transaction sits in the US.

Tremendous thjng if you care about this country first.
 
No it doesn’t because they are under severe pressure to continue the levels of production and therefore reduce costs to bring net end cost after tariff to close to previous levels. Therefore, more profit of the transaction sits in the US.

Tremendous thjng if you care about this country first.
Unless of course you care about the people in this country whose jobs depend on selling things rather than producing things.
 
i was partly motivated because I saw this on X and rolled my eyes to the back of my skull because companies are already exploiting the confusion.

He literally can’t be run again, why does approval rating matter - at all ?

Trump is actually in a great spot to do things that are unpopular but needed exactly because of this.

And yeah that business and tweet are clown material
 
He literally can’t be run again, why does approval rating matter - at all ?

Trump is actually in a great spot to do things that are unpopular but needed exactly because of this.

And yeah that business and tweet are clown material

The horror stories of tariff adjustments are just that. Stories.

Costs are not going up. Tariff coffers are being filled. Americans real wages are increasing.

But remember everyone - it’s the same thing as a tax!
 
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Oh? You mean the ones that now have new markets to sell to that took their tariffs down?
The people selling things here in America to Americans that either literally cannot be produced here or cannot be produced here affordably or require raw material that must be imported. Not every small business can capably open themselves up to international markets simply because there aren’t as many taxes on exports.
 
The people selling things here in America to Americans that either literally cannot be produced here or cannot be produced here affordably or require raw material that must be imported. Not every small business can capably open themselves up to international markets simply because there aren’t as many taxes on exports.

The ones where their suppliers are reducing costs to match post tariff cost?

Again, more of the profit from an end to end transaction is staying in the US. It’s a fantastic thing if you care about the US.
 
The ones where their suppliers are reducing costs to match post tariff cost?

Again, more of the profit from an end to end transaction is staying in the US. It’s a fantastic thing if you care about the US.
I don’t just care about the US in a vacuum, man. There are actual Americans harmed by these policies.
 
I don’t just care about the US in a vacuum, man. There are actual Americans harmed by these policies.
Net net it’s a great thing for America. Q1 forward will begin to show the fruits of this policy. Always said this time would be volatile.
 
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