Fair

57Brave

57Brave

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We use this term a lot and I think it means something different to everyone.

I learned a long time ago if one goes out of ones way to be seen as being fair to object (A) they are invariably being seen as being unfair to object (B).

Given that, I gave up long ago on being "fair" and came to see it a fools errand

Having said that it seems to find a home in our political discussions where our view points are judged not by facts or data but by their degree of fairness vs level of one sided- ness.

I don't think viewing an issue from one side a problem. I respect Bedell ,Sturg, Giles and others for having a steadfast view point that differs from mine. As wrong as they might be.

So, what I'm getting at here --- What is Fair? What does it mean? Why do we still expect fairness? Most importantly, Who do we expect it from?
 
Bundy: ‘I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro…’
04/24/14 09:13 AM

By Steve Benen
Political figures who rallied to defend Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy must have known they were taking a risk. Indeed, much of the Republican establishment chose to do the exact opposite precisely because they were afraid to gamble on a man who doesn’t recognize the legitimacy of the United States government.

But some prominent GOP officials rolled the dice anyway. Fox News and Glenn Beck celebrated the rancher as a hero, while U.S. senators like Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Dean Heller (R-Nev.) cheered Bundy on, calling him a “patriot,” even as he declared an ability to ignore laws and court orders he doesn’t like.

It’s become increasingly difficult to maintain this posture. For one thing, anyone relying on the threat of violence to act above the law hasn’t earned the backing of anyone in the American mainstream. For another, some of the basic elements of Bundy’s claims now appear to be false.

Making matters considerably worse, the New York Times’ Adam Nagourney reports that Bundy spoke with supporters over the weekend about his views on a variety of societal issues.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids – and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch – they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

Congratulations, Sean Hannity. You really know how to pick ‘em.

I’m reminded of a recent quote from a Nevada conservative activist who told Politico, “It’s like, really, Glenn Beck? This is the issue you want to get behind? People who aren’t in tune with the story just jumped all over it. And then you go back and read the facts of the story, and then you go, ‘Uh oh.’”

And that was a week ago, before Bundy decided to start prefacing his remarks by saying, “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro….”

Frankly, it was pretty obvious before that federal lawmakers like Rand Paul and Dean Heller were making a huge mistake rallying behind Bundy. When it comes to choosing a proper cause celebre, it’s best not to choose a man who’s said, “I don’t recognize [the] United States government as even existing,” and whose supporters appeared prepared for a confrontation – a potentially violent confrontation – with American law enforcement.

But some Republicans and conservative media personalities took the leap anyway, associating themselves with Mr. They Never Learned How To Pick Cotton and his well-armed friends.

“Uh oh,” indeed.
 
Yikes. This is going to get ugly fast.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
 
Both / Either

Let's look a little past Bundy's comment. In "fairness" , has MSNBC ever openly promoted an equivalent to Bundy?
 
Comes into town every November. Put on by the Exchange club. Its got haunted houses, cotton candy, a swingin pirate ship, and one helluva funnel cake.

Oh, and I got all the glassware I went to college with at the dime toss with a couple bucks.
 
Tapate50 said:
Comes into town every November. Put on by the Exchange club. Its got haunted houses, cotton candy, a swingin pirate ship, and one helluva funnel cake.

Oh, and I got all the glassware I went to college with at the dime toss with a couple bucks.
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I have never understood the allure of funnel cake.
 
50PoundHead said:
I have never understood the allure of funnel cake.
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When I go visit my daughter in Germany, their funnel cakes and crepes are to die for.

Heck, their kaseschinken brote is my favorite. I tried so hard to make it and all I get is epic failures.

I am scared too death to try and make squeezable zweibelwurst. You might find that in the cities. If you know a place 50, let me know where it is located.
 
AerchAngel said:
When I go visit my daughter in Germany, their funnel cakes and crepes are to die for.

Heck, their kaseschinken brote is my favorite. I tried so hard to make it and all I get is epic failures.

I am scared too death to try and make squeezable zweibelwurst. You might find that in the cities. If you know a place 50, let me know where it is located.
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What kind of cheese bread is that?

and funnelcake is amazing. Legit amazing. But it has to be made well.
 
zitothebrave said:
What kind of cheese bread is that?

and funnelcake is amazing. Legit amazing. But it has to be made well.
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German white cheese, bit on the salty side, with ham sprinkled in it. The bread is almost close to pretzel like. They sell it on every street corner or shop in any German city. Ask Germanbrave about it, he knows what I am talking about. The food over there meat and cheese wise is awesome but American type food, they would eff it up. I would stay away from their McDonalds and other fast foods they rip off from here. It is bad as the burgers I use to eat when I lived in England, gross is a nice word to use.
 
AerchAngel said:
When I go visit my daughter in Germany, their funnel cakes and crepes are to die for.

Heck, their kaseschinken brote is my favorite. I tried so hard to make it and all I get is epic failures.

I am scared too death to try and make squeezable zweibelwurst. You might find that in the cities. If you know a place 50, let me know where it is located.
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Love all the German. I studied it for 4 years in HS and two semesters in college, hopefully going there for the first time this summer.
 
... as I walk through the Chop Country with a decided limp ...

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to be fair ---- "

And folks, my one regret here is that I did not embrace Cliven Bundy sooner, like Sean Hannity did. You know, really draw him to my bosom. To link us inexorably together. To hang him around my neck like some kind of lucky dead sea bird. (audience laughter) But you beat me to it, Sean! You're good, buddy, you're good!

Thanks to your non-stop supportive coverage of Bundy, now when anyone thinks of folks who have insight into "the Negro," they'll think of Sean Hannity. (wild audience cheering and applause)

I mean, these two go together like Ku and Klux. (audience laughter) I mean, I salute you, Sean. I salute you for bravely standing by a man whose only crime was breaking federal law."
 
AerchAngel said:
German white cheese, bit on the salty side, with ham sprinkled in it. The bread is almost close to pretzel like. They sell it on every street corner or shop in any German city. Ask Germanbrave about it, he knows what I am talking about. The food over there meat and cheese wise is awesome but American type food, they would eff it up. I would stay away from their McDonalds and other fast foods they rip off from here. It is bad as the burgers I use to eat when I lived in England, gross is a nice word to use.
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Cheese, bread, ham ....YEP, Im in. Sounds blood vessel cloggingly delicious!
 
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