People love to beat their own chest when they are first and right.
My whole issue with the ranking is it's based on the assumption that he will hit. That's not an assumption you can make about any prospect.
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People love to beat their own chest when they are first and right.
My whole issue with the ranking is it's based on the assumption that he will hit. That's not an assumption you can make about any prospect.
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i don't think it's the assumption he will hit, but the assumption that his offense will be good enough that his defense will easily make up for it.
I believe Kiley assumes Pache will hit enough to be in the Simmons/Pillar level offensively. And similarly be the type of player that is a poor hitter that makes up for it with defense. Again, I think that's a likely outcome for Pache but I wouldn't assume that he will hit at that level. Far better hitting prospects have failed to do even that.
JP
12:54 Pache at 37 seems awfully high. I know how you feel about his potential floor being Pillar, but was any of that Kiley-Braves influenced?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:54 Pache was my prospect #101 LAST offseason so we had a good chuckle at the notion that Kiley was the one pounding the table for him.
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12:54 Pache at 37 seems awfully high. I know how you feel about his potential floor being Pillar, but was any of that Kiley-Braves influenced?
Eric A Longenhagen
12:54 Pache was my prospect #101 LAST offseason so we had a good chuckle at the notion that Kiley was the one pounding the table for him.
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msstate7
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EL is losing all credibility here sticking with Swanson and loving pache
I agree. He's getting close to thethe levels of Braves optimism. Can't have that.
101 to 37...
I wonder if that is the largest single season jump a prospect has ever made with a single season in Low-A ball.
and an unimpressive offensive season, at that.
msstate7
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He will be #1 mid season.
i mean at this rate...if he hits like .300 with strong k and bb rates and even a couple homers, it seems he could easily sneak into the top-15, considering some guys will graduate by then.
Southcack77
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I think you are going to have to break up with Eric. Don't see any way around it.
jpx7
Very Flirtatious, but Doubts What Love Is.
Cynical, but probably on-the-nose. If he makes even minor strides offensively, his other skills will make him a pretty elite prospect—which will make aggressively ranking him now seem very astute—but that offensive improvement is wholly theoretical at the moment.
FG's excellent prospect content is more about the process and systems they have in place than the individual doing the grunt work. EL is a very good source though because he literally sees more prospects in a week than most of these writers see all year. With Kiley in FL and EL in AZ, FG is set up well to have eyes on a LOT of prospects.
I might have to break up with FG as a whole though. Their insistence on hiring fluff writers to produce ESPN-quality articles is disturbing. You should see the comments in Rian's first article...FG readers lit into the poor dope. Believe it or not, I was one of the nicer commenters.
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
I'm disappointed to hear that. You have standards to uphold.
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Hilarious but not that surprising on the last bit. FG commenters are pretty brutal
The dude, Rian Watt, literally wrote an entire article for FG full of drivel like, "Wouldn’t you rather watch Aaron Judge hit the everloving **** out of that glittering ball than watch his balding boss, back in the luxury suite, push some paper around?".
Meg Rowley came on board January 5, and has written 3 articles: "What If Baseball Had a Penalty Box?", "Let’s Endure Four-and-a-Half Minutes of Mound Visits Together", and "How the Union Could Win Over the Public". That is garbage straight out of someone's Facebook feed.
Then Kiley comes back after a failed venture in MLB, and his only non-prospect article was a nonsensical "scouts vs stats" debate, like it was still 2005 when that discussion was all the rage.
The newest hire, Jay Jaffe, the guy who invented the analysis for objective HoF worthiness, just posted his first article and wrote, "The search for smarter baseball is a worthwhile one, but smarter baseball shouldn’t mean less entertaining baseball."
Are you ****ing kidding me? They have purposely dumbed down the content at FG in some attempt at broadening their audience and making more money. The type of content that made FG great is largely going away, and it's a shame. It's just another site for dumb anecdotal articles now, unfortunately.