FG FA Contract Projections

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Enscheff

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FG just posted their estimates for FA contracts:

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2018-top-50-free-agents/

Some notes on guys Braves fans might be interested in:

Moustakas: 5/$85M - 5/$95M

Would AA give up pick #80-85 to upgrade 3B? Maaaaybe, but I hope he doesn't.

Frazier: 3/$42M

If the Braves are going to pay retail for an upgrade at 3B, this is my preferred target. His RHed power compliments Freeman better than Mous. I would try to get him to agree to a 2 year deal with a higher AAV though...something like 2/35 with an option.

Morrow: 2/$18M - 2/$22M

While this is less than the 3/$24M predicted by MLBTR, this is still most likely too rich for the Braves to spend on a BP arm.

Reed: 3/$27M - 3/$30M

I've seen folks here mention him, but this is way out of the Braves' price range. Good thing, in my opinion.

Nunez: 2/$20M - 3/$33M

nsacpi's man-crush is going to get paid for his versatility. This is too much for the Braves to pay for a guy they already have on the roster for $550k...Camargo.

Joe Smith: 2/$12M - 3/$21M

This is the guy I called Plan C for the Braves BP. No thanks at this price.

Neshek: 2/$14M - 2/$16M

He was my Plan A, but this is more than I was hoping to pay. The Braves might have to bite the bullet if they want a legit BP arm.

Hunter: 2/$10M - 2/$12M

He was my Plan B for the BP, and at this price compared to Neshek, he might be my Plan A now considering each pitchers' age.

Chacin: 2/$16M - 2/$20M

I pegged him as my best SP value of this off season. I underestimated his contract when I said that, but I still think he is a good value.
 
Damn, projecting Wade Davis to get 17M a year.
Always loved Carlos Santana. Wish we had a need for him.
 
Frazier makes sense to me as well. He would be the RH bat behind Freeman Kemp was supposed to be, the clubhouse leader Nick was, and the insurance at 1B if Freddie goes down Matt Adams played.

I still think Neil walker is my preferred target if he were open to moving to 3B.

Bryan Shaw is still my preferred releiver. I like Mcghee and Watson as well if we're looking at 2 arms to solidify the back-end.
 
I like Frazier for 3B as you should be able to get him on a 2/3 year deal which shouldn't block Riley and would/should be easy to move if Riley shows he's ready sooner. A possible lineup that looks like this wouldn't be the worst thing... (Assuming both Markakis and Kemp aren't traded and Acuna starts year in AAA)

1. Ender Inciarte- CF
2. Ozzie Albies- 2B
3. Freddie Freeman- 1B
4. Matt Kemp- LF
5. Todd Frazier- 3B
6. Nick Markakis- RF
7. Tyler Flowers- C
8. Dansby Swanson- SS
9. Julio Teheran- P
 
Todd Frazier that’s he had .213 batting avg. Very good formula to make the playoffs. Plus we still have Camargo,Ruiz and Garcia.
 
I also would rather go after Frazier than Moustakas. Sign him to a three year deal and allow Riley a couple years to develop further. Then if/when Riley shows he’s ready, Frazier gets traded.

I have been wondering what Alex Cobb might cost, but he’s likely going to be too rich. If the Braves have designs on contending soon, a TOR starter will be needed at some point. Right now, it’s clear Teheran is not that guy unless he bounces back. I’m not even 100% sure he is Brave next season anyway.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
I also would rather go after Frazier than Moustakas. Sign him to a three year deal and allow Riley a couple years to develop further. Then if/when Riley shows he’s ready, Frazier gets traded.

I have been wondering what Alex Cobb might cost, but he’s likely going to be too rich. If the Braves have designs on contending soon, a TOR starter will be needed at some point. Right now, it’s clear Teheran is not that guy unless he bounces back. I’m not even 100% sure he is Brave next season anyway.
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If you win a bidding war for a player in decline you may have trouble moving him. Hard pass on Frazier.
 
Southcack77 said:
If you win a bidding war for a player in decline you may have trouble moving him. Hard pass on Frazier.
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Frazier is absolutely a win now move, and will be a bench bat by the 3rd year of his deal.

It sounds like AA is resigned to the fact that 2018 will be another lost year with a $100M-$110M payroll, so the hard pass will be the Braves' only option.
 
CrimsonCowboy said:
I also would rather go after Frazier than Moustakas. Sign him to a three year deal and allow Riley a couple years to develop further. Then if/when Riley shows he’s ready, Frazier gets traded.

I have been wondering what Alex Cobb might cost, but he’s likely going to be too rich. If the Braves have designs on contending soon, a TOR starter will be needed at some point. Right now, it’s clear Teheran is not that guy unless he bounces back. I’m not even 100% sure he is Brave next season anyway.
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Cobb isn't a TOR arm anyways. AA stated point blank they are not accelerating the rebuild (because they can't afford it), so I wouldn't expect the Braves to acquire much of anything more than Moylan or equivalent.
 
Enscheff said:
Cobb isn't a TOR arm anyways. AA stated point blank they are not accelerating the rebuild (because they can't afford it), so I wouldn't expect the Braves to acquire much of anything more than Moylan or equivalent.
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Haha..I think you take things "politicians" say too seriously. If I was talking to the media I'd be vanilla as can be as well. They tend to make something out of nothing, so no reason to give them ammunition.

We have no idea of what he's going to do, how much money we have, what money we're going to trade etc..

I can't even guess right now wityh so little information, but nothing would surprise me
 
Chico said:
Haha..I think you take things "politicians" say too seriously. If I was talking to the media I'd be vanilla as can be as well. They tend to make something out of nothing, so no reason to give them ammunition.

We have no idea of what he's going to do, how much money we have, what money we're going to trade etc..

I can't even guess right now wityh so little information, but nothing would surprise me
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Why do folks around here insist on claiming things the FO says aren't true when the comments don't jive with what they want to see happen, or what actually happened?

AA says "we are not going to accelerate the rebuild", and folks think the Braves might still make significant additions.

The old FO says, "we are going to be much better next year", and when the team predictably sucks folks say, "yeah, they didn't REALLY mean that".

When was the last time the Braves FO said one thing and then did the opposite?
 
Enscheff said:
Why do folks around here insist on claiming things the FO says aren't true when the comments don't jive with what they want to see happen, or what actually happened?

AA says "we are not going to accelerate the rebuild", and folks think the Braves might still make significant additions.

The old FO says, "we are going to be much better next year", and when the team predictably sucks folks say, "yeah, they didn't REALLY mean that".

When was the last time the Braves FO said one thing and then did the opposite?
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I'm not sure what "folks" you're talking about. That must be part of your overgeneralization problem.

How do you get "we are not going to accelerate the rebuild" to be the Braves are only going to acquire Moylan or equivalent. That's a big stretch unless you're just being overly emotional again.

This past regime rarely ever did what they said. It started with trading Kimbrel.

I don't what you meant by those last 2 lines. You completed contradicted yourself. I guess that was meant for some other "folks" who can understand that.
 
Chico said:
I'm not sure what "folks" you're talking about. That must be part of your overgeneralization problem.

How do you get "we are not going to accelerate the rebuild" to be the Braves are only going to acquire Moylan or equivalent. That's a big stretch unless you're just being overly emotional again.

This past regime rarely ever did what they said. It started with trading Kimbrel.

I don't what you meant by those last 2 lines. You completed contradicted yourself. I guess that was meant for some other "folks" who can understand that.
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The old FO says, "we are going to be much better next year", and when the team predictably sucks folks say, "yeah, they didn't REALLY mean that".

The FO said one thing (we are are building a contender), but really weren't (they didn't REALLY mean that). Didn't seem overly complicated a statement to me, honestly.

You guys do this routinely. The FO is telling the truth only when what they are saying is what you want to hear.

You don't want to hear that they won't make any significant additions, so you don't think they are telling the truth. You don't want to hear that the Braves have no money for payroll, so they are lying when they say they won't be accelerating the rebuild. You don't want to admit the FO is incompetent, so they weren't telling the truth when they stated they were trying to build a contender. You don't want to hear that AA values pitching over position players, so you claim he doesn't really mean it.

It's standard posting procedure on these boards.
 
Enscheff said:
The old FO says, "we are going to be much better next year", and when the team predictably sucks folks say, "yeah, they didn't REALLY mean that".

The FO said one thing (we are are building a contender), but really weren't (they didn't REALLY mean that). Didn't seem overly complicated a statement to me, honestly.

You guys do this routinely. The FO is telling the truth only when what they are saying is what you want to hear. You don't want to hear that they won't make any significant additions, so you don't think they are telling the truth. You don't want to admit the FO is incompetent, so they weren't telling the truth when they stated they were trying to build a contender. You don't want to hear that AA values pitching over position players, so you claim he doesn't really mean it.

It's standard posting procedure on these boards.
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Your first problem was believeing them when they were bs'ing trying to sell tickets. That sounds like it's your problem and not these "folks" you speak of.

Reading things on the internet is like overhearing a conversation you hear 10%, fill in the other 90% and convince yourself that's exactly what they said. I've seen you do that a lot. I know it's cause you get so emotional, but calm down and read it without filling in your opinion based agenda and it'll read entierly different.
 
Chico said:
Your first problem was believeing them when they were bs'ing trying to sell tickets. That sounds like it's your problem and not these "folks" you speak of.

Reading things on the internet is like overhearing a conversation you hear 10%, fill in the other 90% and convince yourself that's exactly what they said. I've seen you do that a lot. I know it's cause you get so emotional, but calm down and read it without filling in your opinion based agenda and it'll read entierly different.
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LOL, I never bought their bull****. I suppose I need to spend 20 minutes quoting 50 comments where folks posted exactly the kind of thing I described?

It's hilarious reading you guys jump up and down about how good the team will be, and then when they suck say, "the FO wasn't REALLY trying to win".
 
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