First Former President to Have Home Raided by FBI

nsacpi said:
cav·a·lier

[ˌkavəˈlir]
NOUN
HISTORICAL
a supporter of King Charles I in the English Civil War.
SIMILAR:
Royalist
king's man

a small spaniel of a breed with a moderately long, noncurly, silky coat.

ADJECTIVE
showing a lack of proper concern; offhand:
"Anne was irritated by his cavalier attitude"
SIMILAR:
offhand
indifferent
casual
dismissive
insouciant

I once had a King Charles Spaniel named KC. Nice dog even if a bit neurotic. But it is the third definition that applies to the behavior being discussed in this thread.
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Do you think the facts that have come out support your lust for getting trump?
 
sturg33 said:
Do you think the facts that have come out support your lust for getting trump?
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He treated top secret documents that he was not entitled to keep in his house in an extremely cavalier manner. Consistent with all that is known about him as a malign clown or ****ing moron in the words of his own secretary of state.

I would say the facts merely confirm what all non-gaze-averting people have known all along and probably the gaze-averting folk know too in those rare moments when they are honest with themselves.

There is no big reveal because the big reveal has been staring us in the face for many years now.
 
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nsacpi said:
He treated top secret documents that he was not entitled to keep in his house in an extremely cavalier manner. Consistent with all that is known about him as a malign clown or ****ing moron in the words of his own secretary of state.

I would say the facts merely confirm what all non-gaze-averting people have known all along and probably the gaze-averting folk know too in those rare moments when they are honest with themselves.

There is no big reveal because the big reveal has been staring us in the face for many years now.
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Don't forget the nuclear codes!!

This has been a disastrous abuse of power and I do hope the next GOP in power unleashes unlimited vengeance against the left
 
nsacpi said:
I would say the facts merely confirm what all non-gaze-averting people have known all along and probably the gaze-averting folk know too in those rare moments when they are honest with themselves.
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lol. That's rich coming from you. You live in this bizarre alternate reality that the media makes for you and no matter how many times you've had your ass burned you still think you're the smartest person in the room.
 
But I do look forward to the next thread you create to run and hide in for a few days before the next thing you get hilariously wrong
 
Anyhow the silver lining is you boyz get to incorporate the word cavalier into your posts. Looking forward to it.
 
This is why all of this makes no sense. Before y'all start the "FBI didn't know about it" crap they padlocked several rooms after leaving in June.

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Garmel said:
This is why all of this makes no sense. Before y'all start the "FBI didn't know about it" crap they padlocked several rooms after leaving in June.

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I think this padlock business is an urban legend. The DoJ asked that the room some of the materials were in be better secured.

But yes the FBI and DoJ can be fairly criticized for asking politely too many times and for too long. These materials should have been secured and restored to their rightful owner much sooner. They seemed to have assumed asking politely might work. Wrong assumption as it turned out.
 
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nsacpi said:
overly zealous or politically motivated works better for what you are trying to convey in that sentence

but i give you a small plus for class participation
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Nah you have lowered standards for years.with the rest of your cohort which has gotten us here... Degrees so worthless they require the tax payer to fund
 
Garmel said:
Dude, you still think the FBI is on the up and up. lol
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I have plenty issue with what the FBI does and more specifically doesnt do. That said, Hillary has a far bigger complaint than Trump regarding the FBI and Trump has none whatsoever. They fight release a private citizens laptop contents boohoo. One guy fudged a fact on a 4th renewal of surveillance warrant on Carter Paige. Carter Paige has a legitimate complaint but it has next to zero relevance to Trump or the investigation. I personally want politicians investigated and I want them investigated by people that hate them. I don't want Trump investigated by Republicans Bob Mueller and James Comey, I dont want Loretta Lynch investigating the Clinton's, I dont want Adam Schiff investigating Biden. I am very pro investigation of politicians. What I am not okay with is trying to get a foreign country to publicly open an investigation of a Pressdential candidate months before the general election.
 
nsacpi said:
I think this padlock business is an urban legend. The DoJ asked that the room some of the materials were in be better secured.

But yes the FBI and DoJ can be fairly criticized for asking politely too many times and for too long. These materials should have been secured and restored to their rightful owner much sooner. They seemed to have assumed asking politely might work. Wrong assumption as it turned out.
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They give him all the slack on the world then they complain about the slack he is given.
 
nsacpi said:
I think this padlock business is an urban legend. The DoJ asked that the room some of the materials were in be better secured.

But yes the FBI and DoJ can be fairly criticized for asking politely too many times and for too long. These materials should have been secured and restored to their rightful owner much sooner. They seemed to have assumed asking politely might work. Wrong assumption as it turned out.
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Who is the rightful owner of these documents again?
 
nsacpi said:
He treated top secret documents that he was not entitled to keep in his house in an extremely cavalier manner. Consistent with all that is known about him as a malign clown or ****ing moron in the words of his own secretary of state.

I would say the facts merely confirm what all non-gaze-averting people have known all along and probably the gaze-averting folk know too in those rare moments when they are honest with themselves.

There is no big reveal because the big reveal has been staring us in the face for many years now.
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What are you using to justify the characterization of “cavalier”?

I suppose we should all care about what an former Exxon executive thinks of trump. That’ll change the hearts and minds. Keep fighting hat losing fight bud.
 
thethe said:
Who is the rightful owner of these documents again?
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I stand ready to be corrected by any legal eagles out there but my understanding is that the Presidential Records Act establishes that presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.

very poorly chosen one was warned before he even left the White House that taking any official documents with him, let alone national secrets, was illegal under the Presidential Records Act. And his own attorneys agreed that he needed to give the documents back in conversations they had with people from National Archives.
 
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