Why didn’t Obama do it?
Flint, Mich
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Why didn’t Obama do it?
57Brave
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because Presidents dont spend money without authorization of congress.
The House specifically
So we will never know whether he would have or not
your question is the same as why doesn't Trump build the wall
57Brave
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Eyewitness News
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Residents see purple water after pump malfunction
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This is the wealthiest country in the world. Americans need to be confident
they have clean drinking water. Period. When we are in the White House we will pass the
WATER Act to overhaul our nation's water infrastructure.
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Residents see purple water after pump malfunction
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Bernie Sanders
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Bernie Sanders Retweeted Eyewitness News
This is the wealthiest country in the world. Americans need to be confident
they have clean drinking water. Period. When we are in the White House we will pass the
WATER Act to overhaul our nation's water infrastructure.
57Brave
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By Julie Bosman
Jan. 13, 2021
Rick Snyder, the former governor of Michigan who oversaw the state when a water crisis devastated the city of Flint, has been charged with two counts of willful neglect of duty, according to court records.
The charges are misdemeanors punishable by imprisonment of up to one year or a maximum fine of $1,000.
Prosecutors in Michigan will report their findings in a wide-ranging investigation into the water crisis on Thursday, officials said, a long-awaited announcement that is also expected to include charges against several other officials and top advisers to Mr. Snyder.
The findings will be announced by Dana Nessel, the Michigan attorney general, Fadwa Hammoud, the state’s solicitor general, and Kym L. Worthy, Wayne County’s top prosecutor.
Charges had previously been filed in connection to the crisis, which began in 2014, but in June 2019, prosecutors stunned Flint by dropping all pending charges.
Fifteen state and local officials, including emergency managers who ran the city and a member of the governor’s cabinet, had been accused by state prosecutors of crimes as serious as involuntary manslaughter. Seven had already taken plea deals. Eight more, including most of the highest-ranking officials, were awaiting trial.
Brian Lennon, a lawyer for Mr. Snyder, said on Wednesday evening, “We believe there is no evidence to support any criminal charges against Gov. Snyder.”
Randall Levine, a lawyer for Richard L. Baird, a former top adviser to Mr. Snyder, said on Tuesday that he was informed this week that Mr. Baird would be among the people facing charges connected to the water crisis.
“At this time, we have not been made aware of what the charges are, or how they are related to his position with former Michigan Governor Rick Snyder’s administration,” Mr. Levine said. “Rich’s relationship with the Flint community has always been strong. When the Flint water crisis hit, he wasn’t assigned by Governor Snyder to go to Flint, but rather he raised his hand and volunteered.”
In 2016, Mr. Snyder offered an apology for what had happened, but for many residents in Flint, it did not go far enough.
“He pushed this whole thing to the side, and he pushed people to the side,” said Floyd Bell, a Flint resident whose two small grandchildren were poisoned by lead when they were babies and still struggle developmentally. “If he was truly aware of what was going on, he should be held accountable.”
Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha, a Flint pediatrician who warned officials about lead in the drinking supply, said that the prospect of new charges was a reminder that “accountability and justice are critical to health and recovery.”
“This news is a salve, but it isn’t the end of the story,” she said in an email. “Healing wounds and restoring trust will take decades and long-term resources.”
Melissa Mays, one of the first people in Flint to draw attention to the problems with the city’s water, said that given the silence from the attorney general’s office for more than 18 months, she was apprehensive that the charges would go far enough.
“We in Flint have been living in prison for the past almost 7 years and being forced to pay for water that’s still being piped through corroded and damaged infrastructure in the streets and in our homes while the people responsible have been walking free,” she wrote in an email. “We in Flint deserve REAL justice and that means wealthy, white politicians and agency heads going to jail for their actions and inaction that’s caused so much harm and loss to us.”
Jan. 13, 2021
Rick Snyder, the former governor of Michigan who oversaw the state when a water crisis devastated the city of Flint, has been charged with two counts of willful neglect of duty, according to court records.
The charges are misdemeanors punishable by imprisonment of up to one year or a maximum fine of $1,000.
Prosecutors in Michigan will report their findings in a wide-ranging investigation into the water crisis on Thursday, officials said, a long-awaited announcement that is also expected to include charges against several other officials and top advisers to Mr. Snyder.
The findings will be announced by Dana Nessel, the Michigan attorney general, Fadwa Hammoud, the state’s solicitor general, and Kym L. Worthy, Wayne County’s top prosecutor.
Charges had previously been filed in connection to the crisis, which began in 2014, but in June 2019, prosecutors stunned Flint by dropping all pending charges.
Fifteen state and local officials, including emergency managers who ran the city and a member of the governor’s cabinet, had been accused by state prosecutors of crimes as serious as involuntary manslaughter. Seven had already taken plea deals. Eight more, including most of the highest-ranking officials, were awaiting trial.
Brian Lennon, a lawyer for Mr. Snyder, said on Wednesday evening, “We believe there is no evidence to support any criminal charges against Gov. Snyder.”
Randall Levine, a lawyer for Richard L. Baird, a former top adviser to Mr. Snyder, said on Tuesday that he was informed this week that Mr. Baird would be among the people facing charges connected to the water crisis.
“At this time, we have not been made aware of what the charges are, or how they are related to his position with former Michigan Governor Rick Snyder’s administration,” Mr. Levine said. “Rich’s relationship with the Flint community has always been strong. When the Flint water crisis hit, he wasn’t assigned by Governor Snyder to go to Flint, but rather he raised his hand and volunteered.”
In 2016, Mr. Snyder offered an apology for what had happened, but for many residents in Flint, it did not go far enough.
“He pushed this whole thing to the side, and he pushed people to the side,” said Floyd Bell, a Flint resident whose two small grandchildren were poisoned by lead when they were babies and still struggle developmentally. “If he was truly aware of what was going on, he should be held accountable.”
Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha, a Flint pediatrician who warned officials about lead in the drinking supply, said that the prospect of new charges was a reminder that “accountability and justice are critical to health and recovery.”
“This news is a salve, but it isn’t the end of the story,” she said in an email. “Healing wounds and restoring trust will take decades and long-term resources.”
Melissa Mays, one of the first people in Flint to draw attention to the problems with the city’s water, said that given the silence from the attorney general’s office for more than 18 months, she was apprehensive that the charges would go far enough.
“We in Flint have been living in prison for the past almost 7 years and being forced to pay for water that’s still being piped through corroded and damaged infrastructure in the streets and in our homes while the people responsible have been walking free,” she wrote in an email. “We in Flint deserve REAL justice and that means wealthy, white politicians and agency heads going to jail for their actions and inaction that’s caused so much harm and loss to us.”
nsacpi
Expects Yuge Games
hmmm
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
It's been nearly 7 years that this has been a problem.
For comparison, the US built 6,000 cargo ships in 5 years during WW2, and commissioned 1,200 major combatant ships, including twenty-seven aircraft carriers and 18 battleships.
There is a bipartisan lack of will to fix it, and we are in decline.
For comparison, the US built 6,000 cargo ships in 5 years during WW2, and commissioned 1,200 major combatant ships, including twenty-seven aircraft carriers and 18 battleships.
There is a bipartisan lack of will to fix it, and we are in decline.
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
I think fixing the problem is expensive. But worth it and it's not like we haven't spent the money towards it.
I would love it if the Federal Government got their **** together and actually did something. But that's way too expensive. They can easily divert a few billion here and there but the estimated 1 trillion it would take to fix all the water problems in the US, that is too big of a pill to swallow. Even if in the last 20 years we've spent over 5.4 Trillion dollars on the "War on Terror" with an estimated another trillion coming in Vet care. And what do we have to show for the War on Terror? Middle East stability? Less terrorism?
Tapate50
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Everything the government does is inefficient.
57Brave
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".... and $111 billion for water infrastructure — including $45 billion to ensure no child ever is forced to drink water from a lead pipe, which can slow children’s development and lead to behavioral and other problems."
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/...action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage
57Brave
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Antonio Arellano
@AntonioArellano
BREAKING:
The Biden-Harris admin just announced that all US states and territories
will receive a new round of funding to fix America’s vast underground
water system and replace miles of corroded pipes that are creating health risks.
Replacing Lead Pipes
The general-purpose drinking water funding announced today can also be used to replace toxic lead pipes, accelerating progress towards the President’s goal of replacing every lead service line in the country.
The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law also includes a historic $15 billion in dedicated funding for lead pipe replacement. To date, EPA has announced $6 billion of this funding, which will help replace hundreds of thousands of lead pipes. EPA will announce additional lead pipe replacement funding from the Bipartisan Infrastructure for 2024 in the coming months.
Since Vice President Harris last visited Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in June 2022 to highlight the importance of replacing lead pipes and securing clean water access, the city has received $42 million from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law for lead pipe replacement, helping Pittsburgh towards its goal of replacing 100% of its lead pipes by 2026.
In November 2023, EPA proposed updates to the Lead and Copper Rule that require water systems to replace lead service lines within 10 years. EPA is also financing major lead pipe replacement projects through its WIFIA (Water Infrastructure Finance and Innovation Act) loan program. EPA announced low-interest loans of $340 million to the City of Philadelphia and $336 million to the City of Chicago to replace tens of thousands of lead pipes while creating thousands of jobs.
The Administration’s Get the Lead Out (GLO) Initiative – launched in November 2023 as a part of the President’s goal of replacing all lead service lines within a decade – establishes a partnership with 200 underserved communities nationwide to provide the technical assistance they need to access federal funding and remove lead service lines from their communities. This initiative builds on EPA and the Department of Labor’s partnership with 40 underserved communities to support lead pipe replacement.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ructure-as-part-of-investing-in-america-tour/
@AntonioArellano
BREAKING:
The Biden-Harris admin just announced that all US states and territories
will receive a new round of funding to fix America’s vast underground
water system and replace miles of corroded pipes that are creating health risks.
Replacing Lead Pipes
The general-purpose drinking water funding announced today can also be used to replace toxic lead pipes, accelerating progress towards the President’s goal of replacing every lead service line in the country.
The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law also includes a historic $15 billion in dedicated funding for lead pipe replacement. To date, EPA has announced $6 billion of this funding, which will help replace hundreds of thousands of lead pipes. EPA will announce additional lead pipe replacement funding from the Bipartisan Infrastructure for 2024 in the coming months.
Since Vice President Harris last visited Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in June 2022 to highlight the importance of replacing lead pipes and securing clean water access, the city has received $42 million from the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law for lead pipe replacement, helping Pittsburgh towards its goal of replacing 100% of its lead pipes by 2026.
In November 2023, EPA proposed updates to the Lead and Copper Rule that require water systems to replace lead service lines within 10 years. EPA is also financing major lead pipe replacement projects through its WIFIA (Water Infrastructure Finance and Innovation Act) loan program. EPA announced low-interest loans of $340 million to the City of Philadelphia and $336 million to the City of Chicago to replace tens of thousands of lead pipes while creating thousands of jobs.
The Administration’s Get the Lead Out (GLO) Initiative – launched in November 2023 as a part of the President’s goal of replacing all lead service lines within a decade – establishes a partnership with 200 underserved communities nationwide to provide the technical assistance they need to access federal funding and remove lead service lines from their communities. This initiative builds on EPA and the Department of Labor’s partnership with 40 underserved communities to support lead pipe replacement.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ructure-as-part-of-investing-in-america-tour/
chop2chip
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I’m not educated on the fine print so I reserved the right to have anyone’s corrections noted in advance.
I do support public infrastructure spending. My only concern is projects like these usually are kicked off with a warm fuzzy announcement and are never heard from again. Our government is S tier at writing checks, but F tier at cashing them.
I do support public infrastructure spending. My only concern is projects like these usually are kicked off with a warm fuzzy announcement and are never heard from again. Our government is S tier at writing checks, but F tier at cashing them.
sturg33
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what do you mean? this thread was started over 8 years ago
57Brave
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Much to the consternation of their supporters our current administration has been horrible at publicizing their infrastructure projects / successes
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bi...00-projects-will-it-help-him-2024-2023-11-10/
Everyone from Marco Rubio (Ron Desantis) to Lauren Bobbit has claimed credit for the ground breaking of infrastructure
projects to their district all the while voting en bloc against funding said projects.
You can and should feel free to look all that up.
As I noted above the disappointment to POTUS supporters the lack of victory lap.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bi...00-projects-will-it-help-him-2024-2023-11-10/
Everyone from Marco Rubio (Ron Desantis) to Lauren Bobbit has claimed credit for the ground breaking of infrastructure
projects to their district all the while voting en bloc against funding said projects.
You can and should feel free to look all that up.
As I noted above the disappointment to POTUS supporters the lack of victory lap.
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