Folty

Knucksie said:
So there have to be some members here, who said he sucked immediately after the trade was announced and bitched on multiple occasions about the trade at the time. Let's hear back from them.
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/raises hand

Very happy to see two excellent starts in a row. Command was always a concern; also the heat didn't have a whole lot of action. And not a lot of mental acuity that I could identify.

Mid-90s two-seamer moves down and ought to be repeatable. Staying out of the middle of the plate makes him look a lot smarter.

I would love to be wrong.
 
It's still about patience, he's still gonna have some stinkers. But it seems to be starting to come together.
 
At this point, unless a great offer comes along in hoping we keep Juilo.

JT/Blair/Wisler/Folty

And 1 from the group of Perez, Baker, Gant, Jenkins, Newcombe, Sims sounds pretty decent to me.
 
Preacher said:
At this point, unless a great offer comes along in hoping we keep Juilo.

JT/Blair/Wisler/Folty

And 1 from the group of Perez, Baker, Gant, Jenkins, Newcombe, Sims sounds pretty decent to me.
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I agree. There is no rush to trade Julio. Nobody is going to do another Miller deal but we need a haul. And we could always trade him later when we know more about these guys

Folty I still don't trust

But at the beginning of the year I said one of our goals should be to get enough sp data on folty to make an informed decision and move forward. At this point I feel the same way about wisler Blair inciarte and mallex.

Mallex and folty we need to know if they are good enough to be starters. Wisler and Blair we need to get an idea of where they are and ceiling. If wisler is as good as his results(don't think he is) then he could be an extension candidate

Inciarte we need to decide if he's a new core piece or trade bait
 
Russ2dollas said:
I agree. There is no rush to trade Julio. Nobody is going to do another Miller deal but we need a haul. And we could always trade him later when we know more about these guys

Folty I still don't trust

But at the beginning of the year I said one of our goals should be to get enough sp data on folty to make an informed decision and move forward. At this point I feel the same way about wisler Blair inciarte and mallex.

Mallex and folty we need to know if they are good enough to be starters. Wisler and Blair we need to get an idea of where they are and ceiling. If wisler is as good as his results(don't think he is) then he could be an extension candidate

Inciarte we need to decide if he's a new core piece or trade bait
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the longer we wait to trade starting pitching, the longer it takes to get back to winning. If we wait until next deadline to trade JT for prospects, then we have to wait another season for those prospects to develop. Unless you are on the ship that thinks Ozzie/Swanson plus a FA C and 3B is enough to get us competitive... then we need more sooner. I will agree trading JT is a huge risk... but we might have to if we want to get better sooner.
 
bravesfanMatt said:
the longer we wait to trade starting pitching, the longer it takes to get back to winning. If we wait until next deadline to trade JT for prospects, then we have to wait another season for those prospects to develop. Unless you are on the ship that thinks Ozzie/Swanson plus a FA C and 3B is enough to get us competitive... then we need more sooner. I will agree trading JT is a huge risk... but we might have to if we want to get better sooner.
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as usual though, it just depends what you're being offered. I'm not dealing him without getting a stud prospect back.
 
yeezus said:
as usual though, it just depends what you're being offered. I'm not dealing him without getting a stud prospect back.
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agreed.. I think everyone on this board feels the Braves need to clear a hefty haul to make trading the most valuable trade chip we have worth the risk we would assume by removing him from our rotation and depending on young arms to carry this team.
 
yeezus said:
as usual though, it just depends what you're being offered. I'm not dealing him without getting a stud prospect back.
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Yep. We have the luxury of not trading him. He's not an impending FA. He's not got an albatross of a contract. He's not unhappy and wanting out. The only reason we trade him is if it makes sense for us to do so and it's not going to make sense unless we get a haul back.

If I was Coppy I would go into the deadline with the mindset that we're keeping Teheran and force other teams to change my mind with the package offered.

I agree that I'd have to have a stud prospect back to deal him. But I'll amend that a little. I'd want the stud prospect to be a position player that will be ready sooner rather than later. I would also accept a young major leaguer with good talent. I don't see many teams trading young, major league position player talent but I'd be open to that.
 
I like Ian Happ from the Cubs in a deal for Teheran. He'd be ready to take over one of the outfield spots pretty soon. I'd want more with him though.

I love Andrew Benintendi but I doubt the Red Sox part with him for Teheran.
 
The Don said:
I don't think anybody complained about letting the Gorn go. We got a really good package for him all things considered. I think people were doomsday mode when he was giving up homers every game.
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C'mon SAV, some members here overreact in a negative way to everything, especially after the Ritalin supply is depleted.
 
striker42 said:
I like Ian Happ from the Cubs in a deal for Teheran. He'd be ready to take over one of the outfield spots pretty soon. I'd want more with him though.

I love Andrew Benintendi but I doubt the Red Sox part with him for Teheran.
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Happ worries me a bit with his Ks, and I'm not sure the Cubs need Teheran enough. But Happ is in A-ball and k-ing close to 25%. Also walks a ton and has good pop. I do like him.
Benintendi would be amazing, but I don't see that happening.
 
Happ has been playing 2B and could maybe handle 3B, so that would be nice. But I don't see the match.
 
striker42 said:
I like Ian Happ from the Cubs in a deal for Teheran. He'd be ready to take over one of the outfield spots pretty soon. I'd want more with him though.

I love Andrew Benintendi but I doubt the Red Sox part with him for Teheran.
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I don't think the Red Sox have but so many things to do if Teheran is dangled to them. The rotation is so bad and lacks depth to the point that a Teheran-type pitcher would be almost a necessity when it comes playoff time.
 
yeezus said:
Happ worries me a bit with his Ks, and I'm not sure the Cubs need Teheran enough. But Happ is in A-ball and k-ing close to 25%. Also walks a ton and has good pop. I do like him.
Benintendi would be amazing, but I don't see that happening.
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The K's are worrying, especially with a hitter that's supposed to be that polished.

Benintendi would be close to the top of my list but I wouldn't give him up for Teheran straight up. Then again, I probably wouldn't have given Swanson straight up for Miller.
 
striker42 said:
The K's are worrying, especially with a hitter that's supposed to be that polished.

Benintendi would be close to the top of my list but I wouldn't give him up for Teheran straight up. Then again, I probably wouldn't have given Swanson straight up for Miller.
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I wonder if the Rangers would consider dealing Gallo. We need power, and there it is.
 
striker42 said:
The K's are worrying, especially with a hitter that's supposed to be that polished.

Benintendi would be close to the top of my list but I wouldn't give him up for Teheran straight up. Then again, I probably wouldn't have given Swanson straight up for Miller.
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We could also include a Markakis/Sandoval swap in the deal. The Red Sox would have to include a lot of money in that case, but the money gives the teams an avenue to negotiate value without having to add more players.
 
UNCBlue012 said:
I don't think the Red Sox have but so many things to do if Teheran is dangled to them. The rotation is so bad and lacks depth to the point that a Teheran-type pitcher would be almost a necessity when it comes playoff time.
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Any discussions the Braves have with the Red Sox should start with Devers and I'd still want another prospect.
 
yeezus said:
I wonder if the Rangers would consider dealing Gallo. We need power, and there it is.
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I've thought about Gallo as well and with Beltre signing an extension only makes him that much more expendable. Now, I understand many will say that he can just take over for Moreland at DH but ultimately you have guys like Hamilton, Choo, Profar, and Rua that can slide into that role as well.

My question then becomes, could we get Gallo without dealing Teheran?
 
Joey Gallo is an interesting one. He could be the next Adam Dunn or he could be the next Russel Branyan. Hard to tell at this point. He certainly would bring thunder to the lineup.

I doubt the Rangers trade him. He's a 3B right now and might stick there for a couple years but he's probably ultimately destined for either first or the outfield where he's not as blocked. Don't see them dealing Gallo for Teheran.
 
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