Fracking...
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57Brave
Well-known member
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How many posts until someone turns this into a condemnation of the rights of women to make reproductive choices?
12
How many posts until someone declares business' have the right to frack - Just because?
3
How many posts until someone characterizes Goldfly something other than, Goldfly? (because he has pretty much made mince meat of their argument and really - that is all they have left)
9
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As to the topic this reminds me of a quote from Hurricane Sandy - something or other about peoples political principles disappearing under 10 feet of water.
How many posts until someone turns this into a condemnation of the rights of women to make reproductive choices?
12
How many posts until someone declares business' have the right to frack - Just because?
3
How many posts until someone characterizes Goldfly something other than, Goldfly? (because he has pretty much made mince meat of their argument and really - that is all they have left)
9
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As to the topic this reminds me of a quote from Hurricane Sandy - something or other about peoples political principles disappearing under 10 feet of water.
50PoundHead
Hessmania Forever
This really made me laugh in a sad way. Hard to believe at a level.
You forgot the over and under that humans have nothing to do with climate change.
pfiggy
Danville Rookie
That's because everyone knows its cow pfarts that cause the problem........
zitothebrave
Connoisseur of Minors
The fact the GOP has gone so far right on this political climate, I don't see them winning a presidential election again in my lifetime unless they change their agendas. Have to basically drop the religious right stigma.
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
To answer your questions... post number 2.
Tapate50
Well-known member
LOL
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
For those of you interested in actual facts rather than crump's typical propaganda filled memes, the lawsuit is actually in regards to a water supply company proposing to build a tall water tower that they would use to sell water to the fracking company. So it's really kind of a reach to say that the CEO wants to ban fracking near his land. The fracking itself should proceed without the lawsuit. But even if you take crump's propaganda as fact then how do you rationalize away former liberal politicians calling for more windmill farms, but refusing to let them be placed near their property? So the hypocrisy works both ways.
Unfortunately the fracking complaints from the far left are mostly propaganda, especially the documentaries and of course the websites. Some of it is fact, but a lot of the facts have become buried inside a pile of BS.
Look, it's not smart to just pick out some of the problems with fracking and decide that it should be banned or prohibitively regulated. The fact is that if you don't frack and except some of the relatively minor and rare issues (issues that are being fixed by the way) that come with it, then you have to replace it with something else. Because the demand for fuel is going to be just as high no matter if you frack or don't frack. So what are you going to do instead? Welp, coal mining aint exactly kosher either with global warming about. But nonetheless coal mining is what Europeans are relying on now since they banned fracking. Nuke plants? Nobody wants that around their house either.
Meanwhile the state of Pennsylvania has been fracking more than anyone and while the cons exist, it's pretty evident that at least in that state the pros have far outweighed the cons. So if you're going to argue against fracking, leave the emotional propaganda gotcha arguments out of it and let's argue the facts.
Unfortunately the fracking complaints from the far left are mostly propaganda, especially the documentaries and of course the websites. Some of it is fact, but a lot of the facts have become buried inside a pile of BS.
Look, it's not smart to just pick out some of the problems with fracking and decide that it should be banned or prohibitively regulated. The fact is that if you don't frack and except some of the relatively minor and rare issues (issues that are being fixed by the way) that come with it, then you have to replace it with something else. Because the demand for fuel is going to be just as high no matter if you frack or don't frack. So what are you going to do instead? Welp, coal mining aint exactly kosher either with global warming about. But nonetheless coal mining is what Europeans are relying on now since they banned fracking. Nuke plants? Nobody wants that around their house either.
Meanwhile the state of Pennsylvania has been fracking more than anyone and while the cons exist, it's pretty evident that at least in that state the pros have far outweighed the cons. So if you're going to argue against fracking, leave the emotional propaganda gotcha arguments out of it and let's argue the facts.
57Brave
Well-known member
I certainly hope you won't use Sturgesque sources that are debunked about as fast as they are posted.
weso1
<B>Clique Leader</B>
So you blindly except biased fracking documentaries and crumply memes but automatically discount sturges links from sources that don't agree with your view point? Also, aren't you the one who constantly grumps about us not educating ourselves on these issues?
Now with all that said, I do have links from the left:
link 1
link 2
link 3
I also have links from the right that do contain fact on the topic if you're ever interested in those, but I assume from your post you only want links with left wing bias?
I did find this link pretty interesting:
link
As far as solutions? I think fracking is a part of the solution. While we should continue seeking clean energy, it's not going to come over night. Fracking provides us with relatively cheap, domestically produced and clean energy. Again, it's not like the other stuff doesn't have problems. That's what people need to understand.
57Brave
Well-known member
The only thing that should be assumed from my original post is this board has fallen to where every conversation regardless the topic turns into a discussion on abortion or the divine rights of the business community then quickly devolves into citing one person or another an idiot/moron or troll. As to the above post I asked for information -- which you provided. Thanks
The reference to Sturg's links - Even BJ Upton can get them out of the infield
The reference to Sturg's links - Even BJ Upton can get them out of the infield
I was always a fan of Alge Crumpler. That hit he took by Brian Dawkins was brutal.
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goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
goldfly
<B>if my thought dreams could be seen</B>
yeah, i used it cause it was 100% different than my old login so Bill and his minions wouldn't think they i was the same and that i liked Alge