Freeman Trade Speculation

UNCBlue012 said:
Yeah... I type so quickly on these message boards that I rarely spell check. I should probably starting making that a priority. lol
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Heyward said:
I agree with emk, the system is deep but not much top-end talent like a Bryant, Correa, Russell, etc type.

Albies may be good but he doesnt have alot of pop in his bat.
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I completely disagree that we don't have a lot of top-end talent. We don't have a lot of top-end prospects, but we have plenty of talent, and there is a difference.

Much of our top talent is too young and unproven to register at the top of prospect lists at this point. And certainly, with that youth and inexperience comes more risk of them busting. This is why their prospect status is not as high. But that does not mean we don't have a lot of top-end talent. It just has yet to be seen whether that talent develops into productivity at higher levels. But when I talk about us having a lot of depth (and I think most people who rank us highly on farm system rankings agree), I'm talking about the depth of real talent, not depth in that we have a lot of guys who will just play some small role in the majors, like a Kyle Kubitza.

At 18 years old, Russell wasn't a top-100 prospect. At 19, he just barely cracked the top 50...but he had all the elite talent he has currently, he just needed to develop and prove himself at higher levels. Same with many of our prospects.

Newcomb, Allard, Albies, Touki, Riley, Sims, Fried, Acuna, Yepez, Soroka, Herbert, Davidson, Ruiz...all of these guys absolutely have the kind of talent that could eventually land them near the top of prospect ranking lists. Of course they won't all get there, which is why we can't yet call them top prospects...but they absolutely have top talent.

I just think there is a big difference between not having top-end talent and not having top-end prospects yet...and while we don't yet have many of the latter, we do have the former. The farm system, as it currently stands, even without adding any additional players, could absolutely give us a true contending team in time. It will take a while, but the talent is there.
 
smootness said:
I completely disagree that we don't have a lot of top-end talent. We don't have a lot of top-end prospects, but we have plenty of talent, and there is a difference.

Much of our top talent is too young and unproven to register at the top of prospect lists at this point. And certainly, with that youth and inexperience comes more risk of them busting. This is why their prospect status is not as high. But that does not mean we don't have a lot of top-end talent. It just has yet to be seen whether that talent develops into productivity at higher levels. But when I talk about us having a lot of depth (and I think most people who rank us highly on farm system rankings agree), I'm talking about the depth of real talent, not depth in that we have a lot of guys who will just play some small role in the majors, like a Kyle Kubitza.

At 18 years old, Russell wasn't a top-100 prospect. At 19, he just barely cracked the top 50...but he had all the elite talent he has currently, he just needed to develop and prove himself at higher levels. Same with many of our prospects.

Newcomb, Allard, Albies, Touki, Riley, Sims, Fried, Acuna, Yepez, Soroka, Herbert, Davidson, Ruiz...all of these guys absolutely have the kind of talent that could eventually land them near the top of prospect ranking lists. Of course they won't all get there, which is why we can't yet call them top prospects...but they absolutely have top talent.

I just think there is a big difference between not having top-end talent and not having top-end prospects yet...and while we don't yet have many of the latter, we do have the former. The farm system, as it currently stands, even without adding any additional players, could absolutely give us a true contending team in time. It will take a while, but the talent is there.
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Which is exactly the reason they'll at least "listen" on everyone - the more kids you can stockpile with that kind of high ceiling, the more chance you have that several will work out.
 
Don't think/hope the clowns aren't actively shopping Freeman. I do think they are listening to offers though.
 
They were talking about Freeman for quite a while this morning on XM....not saying anything is close or that they are even talking, but they felt the best for that would make sense for both sides would be a braves Astros trade...thoughts?
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
They were talking about Freeman for quite a while this morning on XM....not saying anything is close or that they are even talking, but they felt the best for that would make sense for both sides would be a braves Astros trade...thoughts?
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Braves Astros. Braves Red Sox. Braves Indians. Braves Pirates.

All those teams have what Atlanta needs and COULD (not saying necessarily would) turn them loose. All those teams need a 1B like Freddie.
 
bravesfanforlife88 said:
They were talking about Freeman for quite a while this morning on XM....not saying anything is close or that they are even talking, but they felt the best for that would make sense for both sides would be a braves Astros trade...thoughts?
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FWIW, that was me that called in to mention to Mike Ferrin and Jim Duquette about Houston being the likeliest landing spot IF he's dealt. Mentioned a package centered around A. J. Reed, Tony Kemp, and J. D. Davis, and to my surprise they both thought they'd go even further if they were in Luhnow's shoes. Both agreed they'd package...

Mark Appel, Reed, Francis Martes, and Kemp or Davis AND take all the money.

Again, I really don't want to trade Freddie, but if they'd part with that kind of package I just don't think you could say no personally. That's MLB Pipeline's #43 and #91 plus another 19 year old high-ceiling arm in Martes (sits 93-95 and touches 98) and Davis.
 
clvclv said:
FWIW, that was me that called in to mention to Mike Ferrin and Jim Duquette about Houston being the likeliest landing spot IF he's dealt. Mentioned a package centered around A. J. Reed, Tony Kemp, and J. D. Davis, and to my surprise they both thought they'd go even further if they were in Luhnow's shoes. Both agreed they'd package...

Mark Appel, Reed, Francis Martes, and Kemp or Davis AND take all the money.

Again, I really don't want to trade Freddie, but if they'd part with that kind of package I just don't think you could say no personally. That's MLB Pipeline's #43 and #91 plus another 19 year old high-ceiling arm in Martes (sits 93-95 and touches 98) and Davis.
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Btw I have a man crush on Reed.... .340 with 34 homers in 135 games out of first base? Sign me up
 
clvclv said:
FWIW, that was me that called in to mention to Mike Ferrin and Jim Duquette about Houston being the likeliest landing spot IF he's dealt. Mentioned a package centered around A. J. Reed, Tony Kemp, and J. D. Davis, and to my surprise they both thought they'd go even further if they were in Luhnow's shoes. Both agreed they'd package...

Mark Appel, Reed, Francis Martes, and Kemp or Davis AND take all the money.

Again, I really don't want to trade Freddie, but if they'd part with that kind of package I just don't think you could say no personally. That's MLB Pipeline's #43 and #91 plus another 19 year old high-ceiling arm in Martes (sits 93-95 and touches 98) and Davis.
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If they offered up that group of prospects I don't even think I would object to taking on some of the contract.
 
mqt said:
If they offered up that group of prospects I don't even think I would object to taking on some of the contract.
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Would be hard to pass that up. If I was Houston I would probably go for it. If they add a legit #2 starter via free agency and some bullpen pieces they would be stout for years to come.
 
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