Game day thread: braves @ astros

I know Kyle Muller was tall, but he has an awfully strong and broad build too. Astros broadcast noted he hit 93.
 
Like Muller, like Wilson, like alot of these pitching prospects but there aint room for all of them...
 
Heyward said:
Like Muller, like Wilson, like alot of these pitching prospects but there aint room for all of them...
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Some will wash out. Some will end up in the pen. Don't mind making trades, but that should be mainly based upon getting good value in return.
 
Stylistically, Wentz looks like a taller version of Allard. Missed a couple pitches, so not sure I even saw a change up.
 
nsacpi said:
Some will wash out. Some will end up in the pen. Don't mind making trades, but that should be mainly based upon getting good value in return.
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Fair point, not a make a trade just to make a trade guy, but a LOT of these guys will be ready very soon which is why i'm still kinda perplexed some of them werent moved.
 
The only slam dunk rotation option among the prospects who are MLB ready right now is Soroka, and he is having shoulder issues. The rest either have BP risk (Fried, Wilson) , control risk (Touki, Newk), or simply aren’t very good (Allard).

This idea that there isn’t room for these guys is simply wrong. Everyone has drooled over every set of pitching prospects the Braves have ever had, and they have never ran out of room. Folks like to think this time is different, but it’s not.
 
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Enscheff said:
The only slam dunk rotation option among the prospects who are MLB ready right now is Soroka, and he is having shoulder issues. The rest either have BP risk (Fried, Wilson) , control risk (Touki, Newk), or simply aren’t very good (Allard).

This idea that there isn’t room for these guys is simply wrong. Everyone has drooled over every set of pitching prospects the Braves have ever had, and they have never ran out of room. Folks like to think this time is different, but it’s not.
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Well, write this down. I am a big believer in Wison. I worry he could be one of the ones traded and then go on to be a stud with another team. Yes, I know it’s basically a homer statement. I just really like him....and have since I watched him in Rome.

Never been to high on Newk and think we should trade him before his value plummets (at anytime).

I like Fried if he can stay healthy. He is probably a bullpen guy because of that, but I’m ok with that. Great stuff.

I really don’t know about Touki, but he has gotten better each year. I think he will be a starter. The question is ...how good of one will he be?

Soroka if healthy will be great....if healthy.

Allard has just turned out to be a bad pick. Really, he’s the only high pick of the rebuild that they missed on. Yet...as I say this...he has done well at every level and made it to the big leagues (which many never see). So, maybe he can stick as a #5 somewhere...just hopefully not with us.
 
Enscheff said:
The only slam dunk rotation option among the prospects who are MLB ready right now is Soroka, and he is having shoulder issues. The rest either have BP risk (Fried, Wilson) , control risk (Touki, Newk), or simply aren’t very good (Allard).

This idea that there isn’t room for these guys is simply wrong. Everyone has drooled over every set of pitching prospects the Braves have ever had, and they have never ran out of room. Folks like to think this time is different, but it’s not.
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Correct. To the extent to which any pitching prospect is a slam dunk we do not have someone like that. I'm really very sympathetic with AA's approach, which has been to take some time to see which ones blossom. Because it is actually quite hard to identify which ones will and which ones will wash out or end up in the pen.
 
TheBravos said:
Well, write this down. I am a big believer in Wison. I worry he could be one of the ones traded and then go on to be a stud with another team. Yes, I know it’s basically a homer statement. I just really like him....and have since I watched him in Rome.

Never been to high on Newk and think we should trade him before his value plummets (at anytime).

I like Fried if he can stay healthy. He is probably a bullpen guy because of that, but I’m ok with that. Great stuff.

I really don’t know about Touki, but he has gotten better each year. I think he will be a starter. The question is ...how good of one will he be?

Soroka if healthy will be great....if healthy.

Allard has just turned out to be a bad pick. Really, he’s the only high pick of the rebuild that they missed on. Yet...as I say this...he has done well at every level and made it to the big leagues (which many never see). So, maybe he can stick as a #5 somewhere...just hopefully not with us.
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I have my own ranking (and I like Wilson too), but I think we all have to acknowledge that there is just a tremendous amount of uncertainty about who will pan out and make it as a major league starting pitcher.
 
Thanks, AA for not making many moves. I can tell already this will be a lost season. 0-2 against these scrubs in the preseason. No freaking excuse!!!
 
Enscheff said:
The only slam dunk rotation option among the prospects who are MLB ready right now is Soroka, and he is having shoulder issues. The rest either have BP risk (Fried, Wilson) , control risk (Touki, Newk), or simply aren’t very good (Allard).

This idea that there isn’t room for these guys is simply wrong. Everyone has drooled over every set of pitching prospects the Braves have ever had, and they have never ran out of room. Folks like to think this time is different, but it’s not.
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Wright will likely get plenty of run in the second half as well. Also- Gohara not part of your rotation at any point ?
 
Tapate50 said:
Wright will likely get plenty of run in the second half as well. Also- Gohara not part of your rotation at any point ?
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I have been the most disappointed with Wright. For his age and pedigree...he has been “ok”. Maybe he comes around this year.
 
dak said:
Stylistically, Wentz looks like a taller version of Allard. Missed a couple pitches, so not sure I even saw a change up.
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Wentz is a strong kid. He gets lost in the glut of pitching but he’s a solid prospect. His secondary pitches have always been decent-good to lacking. It’ll be a good development test this year.
 
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