Garcia being traded to Twins

Enscheff said:
Meh. Bundi was a potential 98-100 MPH closer.

Ynoa is a small low-90s guy that might stick at the back of a rotation, but is walking a ton of guys. He's like Touki with much less stuff.

I think I would have preferred the potential elite closer, even with the TJ on his resume.

Of course, you guys think Garcia's value increased after his last start, so you all will obviously be claiming to prefer Ynoa haha.
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Lol well on the flip side you said Garcia's value went DOWN after that start, and it clearly didn't. Both Ynoa and Burdi are rated 40 FV by Fangraphs. Burdi has a much better FB, but worse command and a blown out elbow. Braves went from paying more cash to paying almost no cash and throwing Recker. Garcia's value basically stayed the same
 
Freshmaker said:
Lol well on the flip side you said Garcia's value went DOWN after that start, and it clearly didn't. Both Ynoa and Burdi are rated 40 FV by Fangraphs. Burdi has a much better FB, but worse command and a blown out elbow. Braves went from paying more cash to paying almost no cash and throwing Recker. Garcia's value basically stayed the same
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Did I? You sure about that?

Or did I say, "his value increased due to performance by exactly the same amount it decreased now that he will be making 1 less start for his new team"?
 
Yeah, have to hand this one to Enscheff. I like the idea of going after young guys with a high ceiling, which is pretty much our MO, but Garcia's market value did not go up.
 
Enscheff said:
It's simple, yet you still misunderstand it. Teams would have been buying 10-12 regular season starts. Now they will be buying 1 less start.

His value decreases every start he makes in Atlanta.
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Enscheff said:
Did I? You sure about that?

Or did I say, "his value increased due to performance by exactly the same amount it decreased now that he will be making 1 less start for his new team"?
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Lol yes I am sure
 
smootness said:
Yeah, have to hand this one to Enscheff. I like the idea of going after young guys with a high ceiling, which is pretty much our MO, but Garcia's market value did not go up.
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I think the point is that this is impossible to say without knowing how each team valued each player.

Regardless it's a rather pedantic argument and is only serving to make the town hothead angry.
 
Super said:
I think the point is that this is impossible to say without knowing how each team valued each player.

Regardless it's a rather pedantic argument and is only serving to make the town hothead angry.
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Of course it's impossible to say since it's the only shred of an excuse you have left...you and all the geniuses were wrong.

You've been wrong every single time you've disagreed with me...about anything...ever.

Every single trade discussion. Every single player valuation. Everything. Every time.

Stick with stalking my username on the internet.
 
Looks like Keith Law just posted an Insider article on the trade. Any of our Insiders care to summarize his analysis on Ynoa?
 
Enscheff said:
Meh. Bundi was a potential 98-100 MPH closer.

Ynoa is a small low-90s guy that might stick at the back of a rotation, but is walking a ton of guys. He's like Touki with much less stuff.

I think I would have preferred the potential elite closer, even with the TJ on his resume.

Of course, you guys think Garcia's value increased after his last start, so you all will obviously be claiming to prefer Ynoa haha.
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At 6-3,175, he's a veritable midget.
 
I never liked the Garcia trade. Thoughtf he had almost no value with what he was making. People forget he was almost nontendered by the cards.

Turns out I was right. He had very little value with that contract. Id rather have Gant than Ynoa.
 
striker42 said:
I never liked the Garcia trade. Thoughtf he had almost no value with what he was making. People forget he was almost nontendered by the cards.

Turns out I was right. He had very little value with that contract. Id rather have Gant than Ynoa.
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So you don't think he substantially increased his trade value with that start against the Dodgers haha?
 
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