GDT 10/9: MAX and the USUAL LINEUP- GET TIED ON OUR MASCOT HOLIDAY!

Wow, what an ending! That certainly has the potential to shift the momentum of the series in our favor.

I watched the archived game on MLB.TV, so I knew they'd win going into the 9th, because the tape was running out of time. Still, one of the most exciting endings to a playoff game in a long time. This is also where the series deviates from last year, because that game 2 win wasn't exactly uplifting. Let's hope it gives the team the spur it needs, because the Phillies again looked like the better team with the better gameplan. The Braves' inability to catch up to fastballs is concerning. The hitters don't seem to have a clue what's coming, or how to adjust. Turning 4 hits and a walk into 5 runs is certainly efficient, but I wouldn't try repeating that.

All in all, the Phillies still look like the favorites, not only because of HFA. This was a "heart" win for the Braves. Now they need a "talent" win in Philly.

I think being off for a week is the reason for the timing being off. It's why the playoff format needs to change in regards to days between series. If they insist on having a 3 game WC series, all games need to be back to back with no travel days. And if no reseeding, then there should be no off days between the WC series and the Division series either and the 1st 2 DS games should be back to back. The WC's deserve no breaks given. They should not be given a chance to reset their rotation and rest their BP between series.
 

Almost all of those guys have 6 PAs or less vs Iggy. That isn't enough data to read anything into, as 1 or 2 bad outings can inflate those numbers in such a small sample. The guy with the most PAs against him is Schwarber with 14 PAs but only 2 XBs. Considering he's hit under .200 for 2 straight years, that's probably an aberration.

Harper is the only one that really tees off on him with 4 HRs in 9 PAs. Turner is next with 2 homers in 6 PAs. Everything else is just noise at this point.
 
Honestly- only giving up 3 & 4 feels like a win for the pitching

Pitching has been nails. Strider was legitimately great, Fried's command was spotty at best, but he was brutalized on calls early that elevated his pitch count and never allowed him to truly settle down. Still, he kept the game close. The bullpen has been solid.
 
Outside on the corner doesn’t mean as much when it’s middle.

Disagree. Any pitch outside the zone has a significantly smaller likelihood of finding the center of the bat. The credit goes to Castellanos on that one. That wasn't a great swing. He literally dropped the bat to the ball and hit 100 MPH off the bat. He didn't even follow through with his swing.

Much like the Riley homerun. Credit to Riley for pulling a pitch below his knees out of the park on a 1 handed swing.
 
Look at it from the Phillies stand point. It took a miraculous comeback and a miraculous play just to take a game from them.

I actually see it quite differently.

I see a team who was sleepwalking for 14 innings, and finally woke up for 3.5 innings. And in those 3.5 innings were able to do enough to win 1 of 2 games.

I would be very concerned if I were the Phillies.
 
I actually see it quite differently.

I see a team who was sleepwalking for 14 innings, and finally woke up for 3.5 innings. And in those 3.5 innings were able to do enough to win 1 of 2 games.

I would be very concerned if I were the Phillies.

MO is a fickle bitch.
 
Nah we got this now if we won the game Wheeler started

Philly has a big advantage game 3 with Nola vs Elder or AJS/BP game. But getting it even is big, at least gives Spencer another start and maybe we can finally hit Sandy Koufax i mean Suarez in Game 4. Dont know what it is but we cannot hit him, like ever.
 
Philly has a big advantage game 3 with Nola vs Elder or AJS/BP game. But getting it even is big, at least gives Spencer another start and maybe we can finally hit Sandy Koufax i mean Suarez in Game 4. Dont know what it is but we cannot hit him, like ever.

I'm aware that pitchers can be on for a given game. But Nola isn't the same pitcher this year as he was the previous few seasons.
 
Philly has a big advantage game 3 with Nola vs Elder or AJS/BP game. But getting it even is big, at least gives Spencer another start and maybe we can finally hit Sandy Koufax i mean Suarez in Game 4. Dont know what it is but we cannot hit him, like ever.

They had a big advantage with a hot Wheeler against a Fried coming off injury and a rusty Braves lineup. Anything can happen in these kind of games.
 
I'm aware that pitchers can be on for a given game. But Nola isn't the same pitcher this year as he was the previous few seasons.

I'm an admitted Aaron Nola fanboy - I've always loved the guy for whatever reason - so I watch many of his starts and this is accurate. He's not the same guy at all. His peripherals are better than what you see on paper, but his knuckle curve is his only real pitch now. His fastball is essentially average but it's easier to pick up than ever, his sinker and changeup are flat-out not effective, and his cutter (which he rarely throws) is OK but again, he doesn't trust it. Additionally, his command has gotten worse and his hard-hit trade has also risen. He's definitely someone who can turn it on, but he's not consistent at all.
 
So... lets discuss / debate. What should our game 3 plan be? I find it easiest to work backwards.

Below is a possibility if you wanted an all bullpen game
9th - Iggy
8th - Minter
7th - Johnson / Minter (Minter comes in for lefties as needed and comes back out for 8th)
6th - Johnson
5th - Jiminez
4th - Yates / Jiminez available if early results struggling
3rd - Tomkin / Yates available if Tomkin struggles
2nd - Tomkin
1st - Hand

Feels like Hand as an opener is an obvious choice with the lefties up to start the game. You just hope he can literally give you one inning. Innings 2-4 are the toughest ones to solve for. In theory the above could work

Its tough to assume an all bullpen game though, especially with this being only back to back games in the series.

If we try to turn to a starter for innings 2-4, I'm torn between Elder and AJSS. No doubt my gambling side says give the kid a shot. But honestly big part of me that also finds it extremely uneasy going with a 20 year old rookie in Philly, that literally has 6 big league starts to his name and frankly, notwithstanding all the talk of this intra-squad game, was fairly mediocre when he pitched, and struggled with both walks and homers. Not that I have even an ounce of confidence in Elder...
 
Was also thinking of Hand as the opener, to essentially neutralize Shwarber and Harper, since he's got good numbers against them. But I do wonder if the Phillies would adjust their lineup to negate that advantage. Essentially leave Harper up there but have righties in 3 or 4 of the top 5 spots.
 
So... lets discuss / debate. What should our game 3 plan be? I find it easiest to work backwards.

Below is a possibility if you wanted an all bullpen game
9th - Iggy
8th - Minter
7th - Johnson / Minter (Minter comes in for lefties as needed and comes back out for 8th)
6th - Johnson
5th - Jiminez
4th - Yates / Jiminez available if early results struggling
3rd - Tomkin / Yates available if Tomkin struggles
2nd - Tomkin
1st - Hand

Feels like Hand as an opener is an obvious choice with the lefties up to start the game. You just hope he can literally give you one inning. Innings 2-4 are the toughest ones to solve for. In theory the above could work

Its tough to assume an all bullpen game though, especially with this being only back to back games in the series.

If we try to turn to a starter for innings 2-4, I'm torn between Elder and AJSS. No doubt my gambling side says give the kid a shot. But honestly big part of me that also finds it extremely uneasy going with a 20 year old rookie in Philly, that literally has 6 big league starts to his name and frankly, notwithstanding all the talk of this intra-squad game, was fairly mediocre when he pitched, and struggled with both walks and homers. Not that I have even an ounce of confidence in Elder...

I will punch you in the face if you don't replace Tomkin (tonkin) with AJSS or Elder or someone else. I like AJSS 2 innings if you can.. Elder on standby if needed after 3 batters or AJSS.. I also guess we need to think Hernandez will be available too.
 
So... lets discuss / debate. What should our game 3 plan be? I find it easiest to work backwards.

Below is a possibility if you wanted an all bullpen game
9th - Iggy
8th - Minter
7th - Johnson / Minter (Minter comes in for lefties as needed and comes back out for 8th)
6th - Johnson
5th - Jiminez
4th - Yates / Jiminez available if early results struggling
3rd - Tomkin / Yates available if Tomkin struggles
2nd - Tomkin
1st - Hand

Feels like Hand as an opener is an obvious choice with the lefties up to start the game. You just hope he can literally give you one inning. Innings 2-4 are the toughest ones to solve for. In theory the above could work

Its tough to assume an all bullpen game though, especially with this being only back to back games in the series.

If we try to turn to a starter for innings 2-4, I'm torn between Elder and AJSS. No doubt my gambling side says give the kid a shot. But honestly big part of me that also finds it extremely uneasy going with a 20 year old rookie in Philly, that literally has 6 big league starts to his name and frankly, notwithstanding all the talk of this intra-squad game, was fairly mediocre when he pitched, and struggled with both walks and homers. Not that I have even an ounce of confidence in Elder...

An all BP game is kinda tough, think you need someone to handle the 2-4 innings. Dont have much confidence in Elder, and AJSS in that environment would be tough. I do kinda like Hand as an opener then going to someone else.
 
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