GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

[Jaw]

Yeah, sorry I usually take you at your word! the silly game isn't usually your forte!

I got sloppy. It's just getting hard to talk about the fraud stuff seriously. One should get their evidence together before accusing someone of theft, not after.

 

[Jaw]

More “accidents” in NC where mail in ballots were double counted for a judge position. Went from dem incumbent winning to GOP winning.

Yeah. No voting fraud.

There have been several local races that flipped due to recounts in the past few days. All that I'm aware of have gone from D to R, but that may be due to the slant of the information I consume. Extreme accuracy is certainly necessary in races that are decided by a few votes.

 

[thethe]

There have been several local races that flipped due to recounts in the past few days. All that I'm aware of have gone from D to R, but that may be due to the slant of the information I consume. Extreme accuracy is certainly necessary in races that are decided by a few votes.

Errors always go in one direction.

 

[sturg33]

Errors always go in one direction.

This is hard to dispute

 

[Jaw]

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Dave is aware of how disingenuous that statement is, but he's been a general failure this election season. Biden underperformed Hillary in every major city, except Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Detroit. Only performing well in the four swing state cities is one of those weird circumstances that has helped fuel the fraud talk.

The consistent under performance by several percentage points of Republican candidates in <checks notes> every major polling service doesn't help inspire confidence either.

 

[thethe]

Dave is aware of how disingenuous that statement is, but he's been a general failure this election season. Biden underperformed Hillary in every major city, except Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Detroit. Only performing well in the four swing state cities is one of those weird circumstances that has helped fuel the fraud talk.

The consistent under performance by several percentage points of Republican candidates in <checks notes> every major polling service doesn't help inspire confidence either.

It’s also a statement that proves he doesn’t understand how numbers work. The margin is irrelevant when the total vote count increases so much. That’s what’s important.

 

[nsacpi]

Dave is aware of how disingenuous that statement is, but he's been a general failure this election season. Biden underperformed Hillary in every major city, except Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, and Detroit. Only performing well in the four swing state cities is one of those weird circumstances that has helped fuel the fraud talk.

The consistent under performance by several percentage points of Republican candidates in <checks notes> every major polling service doesn't help inspire confidence either.

There is an alternative take, which is that the Dems concentrated their efforts in certain metro areas. I'm sure they pushed much harder in competitive states than in places like Chicago, New York and San Francisco.

I also think the focus on central cities leaves out a big part of the story. Dem margins grew by very large amounts in the suburban counties around Atlanta and Philly. Also Maricopa County and Pima county in Arizona. And on a smaller scale Chatham County (Savannah). Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) padded the Dem margins by around 40,000 votes.

If you look at population trends, the growth is still very much in those suburban counties, and away from rural counties and central cities. To me that is where the main difference between 2020 and 2016 lies.

 

[thethe]

There is an alternative take, which is that they concentrated their efforts in certain areas. I'm sure they pushed much harder in competitive states than in places like Chicago, New York and San Francisco.

I also think the focus on central cities leaves out a big part of the story. Dem margins grew by very large amounts in the suburban counties around Atlanta and Philly. Also Maricopa County and Pima county in Arizona. And on a smaller scale Chatham County (Savannah). Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) padded the Dem margins by around 40,000 votes.

If you look at population trends, the growth is still very much in those suburban counties, and away from rural counties and central cities. To me that is where the main difference between 2020 and 2016 lies.

Projected vote count increase in Philly is around 11% while population growth was around 1.5%

 

[thethe]

One of my favorite things to do in the past few days is to read articles from prior to 2018 that discuss the risk of fraud with mail in ballots and how these new computerized voting systems are asking for rigging elections

Now it can’t be discussed of course.

 

[thethe]

And now another ‘glitch’ this time in CT where a D was declared a state house winner and now it was flipped to a R.

Can someone provide one example of when the error goes in the opposite direction?

 

[nsacpi]

Projected vote count increase in Philly is around 11% while population growth was around 1.5%

Yeah but Hillary was weak in Philly. If you look at the last 4 presidential elections, the anomaly is 2016.

It kind of makes sense too. African Americans came out for Obama in 2008 and 2012. And credibly accused creepy joe has deep ties to Pennsylvania. Jill Biden is from Philly. So it is not surprising that 2020 looks more like 2008 than 2016.

 

[Jaw]

There is an alternative take, which is that the Dems concentrated their efforts in certain metro areas. I'm sure they pushed much harder in competitive states than in places like Chicago, New York and San Francisco.

I also think the focus on central cities leaves out a big part of the story. Dem margins grew by very large amounts in the suburban counties around Atlanta and Philly. Also Maricopa County and Pima county in Arizona. And on a smaller scale Chatham County (Savannah). Allegheny County (Pittsburgh) padded the Dem margins by around 40,000 votes.

If you look at population trends, the growth is still very much in those suburban counties, and away from rural counties and central cities. To me that is where the main difference between 2020 and 2016 lies.

I agree that it made sense to focus there, just pointing out that it's a stat people see and become suspicious of, or they believe confirms their suspicions. Neither party needs to waste resources in California or Wyoming so they focus on more contested areas. It's the same reason all of the pointing to the popular vote is dumb. No one is campaigning for it.

 

[thethe]

Yeah but Hillary was weak in Philly. If you look at the last 4 presidential elections, the anomaly is 2016.

It kind of makes sense too. African Americans came out for Obama in 2008 and 2012. And credibly accused creepy joe has deep ties to Pennsylvania. Jill Biden is from Philly. So it is not surprising that 2020 looks more like 2008 than 2016.

Trump earned more of the black vote this year. That screams lack of enthusiasm for Biden amongst that demographic. I think blacks people need more than association to vote for someone.

Trying to compare black turnout to the first election where a black man ran and won is well interesting.

 

[nsacpi]

Trump earned more of the black vote this year. That screams lack of enthusiasm for Biden amongst that demographic. I think blacks people need more than association to vote for someone.

Trying to compare black turnout to the first election where a black man ran and won is well interesting.

credibly accused creepy joe aint black but he and his wife are from Pennsylvania. That's gonna help. Hillary didn't have that going for her. Not rocket science.

 

[thethe]

credibly accused creepy joe aint black but he and his wife are from Pennsylvania. That's gonna help. Hillary didn't have that going for her. Not rocket science.

Yes. Him being born ther but not living there caused a turnout increase that defies statistical logic. The real shame is that you understand that fact but you can’t swallow your pride and admit it.

We all know where this is going.

 

[nsacpi]

Yes. Him being born ther but not living there caused a turnout increase that defies statistical logic. The real shame is that you understand that fact but you can’t swallow your pride and admit it.

We all know where this is going.

He has spent his whole career cultivating Pennsylvania. He was sometimes referred to as Pennsylvania's third senator.

 

[thethe]

He has spent his whole career cultivating Pennsylvania. He was sometimes referred to as Pennsylvania's third senator.

And then said he would take away thousands of their jobs.

These mental gymnastics you are pulling for something you know mathematically is almost impossible is disappointing.

 

[tululush]

And then said he would take away thousands of their jobs.

These mental gymnastics you are pulling for something you know mathematically is almost impossible is disappointing.

Pot calling the kettle black. Take Trump out of your mouth for 5 mins dude. I promise, he doesn’t read these boards so he’s not seeing the love fest you’re giving him. It’s done. Move along. Trump lost. Save yourself from continuing to look like someone in desperate need of help.

 

[goldfly]

And then said he would take away thousands of their jobs.

These mental gymnastics you are pulling for something you know mathematically is almost impossible is disappointing.

Lol

 

[Carp]

And now another ‘glitch’ this time in CT where a D was declared a state house winner and now it was flipped to a R.

Can someone provide one example of when the error goes in the opposite direction?

It's already been provided a few pages back. But here's another one:

https://www.news-leader.com/story/n...s-springfield-missouri-house-seat/6260729002/

All the delusional far right nutjobs you follow on Twitter aren't desperately combing the internet for stories on the opposite end of the spectrum, so I know it's easy for you to miss.