GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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zbhargrove said:
https://fetchyournews.com/news/trump-alleged-voter-fraud-georgia/

Fulton County officials and Commission Chairman Ronald Pitts addressed the Oversight Committee in the morning. They addressed the claims about vote tampering in State Farm Arena.

An election manager at State Farm Arena did direct some of the staff to leave at 10:30 p.m. Election Director Richard Barron said they could not go and must continue working. Some employees did leave at 10:30 p.m., and the observers left. The election official recounting the story didn’t witness the event.

She did say that a Secretary of State monitor remained in the room, and after it became clear that the vote count would continue, more monitors returned.

“There was no intentional misleading of anyone. There was nothing untoward that occurred, but some workers stayed some left. Some of the observers left, but a Secretary of State monitor stayed the entire time,” Fulton Director of External Affairs Jessica Corbitt-Dominguez said.

Chairman Pitts cleared up the water leak issue. The leak began at 6:07 a.m. and was fixed by 8:07 a.m. No ballots were damaged, and it occurred on a different floor.
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I keep seeing 6:07 AM and it doesn't make sense to me. I was switching between the Atlanta news stations on election night and saw the live report that counting stopped and election workers were sent home due to a burst pipe. Live report meaning, local Atlanta tv reporter standing outside the building and talking about it.

It wasn't at 6 AM, I think I went to bed around 3 and it happened quite a while before that.
 
Jaw said:
I keep seeing 6:07 AM and it doesn't make sense to me. I was switching between the Atlanta news stations on election night and saw the live report that counting stopped and election workers were sent home due to a burst pipe. Live report meaning, local Atlanta tv reporter standing outside the building and talking about it.

It wasn't at 6 AM, I think I went to bed around 3 and it happened quite a while before that.
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That is my memory as well
 
Dalyn said:
Yeah. I added a whole section/element to my project just so I would have an excuse to email him.
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When I was studying game theory I assumed he was dead. My reading list had 2 or 3 papers he published in the late 50s/early 60s. Then nothing. But another grad student who had gone to Princeton undergrad explained to me that Nash was still roaming the hallways, cadging cigarettes from anyone who had some. He had some friends at the Institute for Advanced Study who basically let him have access to the building just out of compassion. And a small miracle happened. Over a period of many years he gradually got better.

Sylvia Nassar's bio of him, also titled A Beautiful Mind, is a great read. There is a lot of stuff in there that was left out of the movie. Nash had quite a um varied sex life and that was left out of the movie completely.
 
nsacpi said:
When I was studying game theory I assumed he was dead. My reading list had 2 or 3 papers he published in the late 50s/early 60s. Then nothing. But another grad student who had gone to Princeton undergrad explained to me that Nash was still roaming the hallways, cadging cigarettes from anyone who had some. He had some friends at the Institute for Advanced Study who basically let him have access to the building just out of compassion. And a small miracle happened. Over a period of many years he started to get better.

Sylvia Nassar's bio of him, also titled A Beautiful Mind, is a great read.
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Yeah. I've read it, and the movie is good, too. I definitely think he was actually involved with the government, and they used his illness to hide what he did for them. Disgusting, really, and it did a lot of damage to the man. I'm glad he found some measure of peace.
 
Dalyn said:
Yeah. I've read it, and the movie is good, too. I definitely think he was actually involved with the government, and they used his illness to hide what he did for them. Disgusting, really, and it did a lot of damage to the man. I'm glad he found some measure of peace.
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He did some work for Rand. But nothing as extensive as von Neumann. When von Neumann died, it was under strict military security at Walter Reed. There were some people from the Pentagon hanging around his deathbed hoping for some final words of wisdom.

Nash had some interesting interactions with von Neumann. He showed von Neumann his thesis. And von Neumann wasn't very generous in his assessment.

The Nash Equilibrium is one of those ideas that is so profound that it now seems ridiculously simple and intuitive. But until he came up with the solution, it was a problem that had stumped people like von Neumann.
 
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Dalyn said:
Yep. I remember it happening around 6pm. I'm guessing someone switched that up.
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It seems more like a lie when the chairman says 607 am and the article runs that uncritically as "the pipe burst was cleared up"

Its definitely not clear at all and yet the usual suspects took that as proof of no shenanigans
 
If Georgia was the only place that didn't follow the pattern of:

1. Stopping the vote on election night for unclear reasons
2. Contain an anomolous sets of data input shortly after the closure that shared no characteristics with the votes before or after

Then it would be much easier to discount this as a freak occurrence.

This election was an utter disaster and intentionally so.
 
I think one thing we can take away from this is that County Elections Boards need to be scrapped. The idea that national politics are being placed in the hands of these people scares me.
 
zbhargrove said:
It is so painfully and embarrassingly obvious
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We've been lucky that Raffensberger and other officials who have had to deal with this have by and large shown a lot of integrity. Ditto for the judges. But some of that is the luck of the draw. If these questions had landed on the laps of a different set of officials and judges things could have been a lot different.
 
Ehh. Coup by definition includes violence. No one was accusing Dems of a coup when they were begging the electoral college electors to go faithless in 2017 and pick Hillary. No one even accused the electors that followed through on that of committing a coup.

Subverting the will of the people and the electoral system? Sure. Yellow bellied shyster lawyering? Absolutely. Dirty, scoundrel...there are lots of accurate and uncomplimentary words for it. Coup is not among them.
 
Jaw said:
Ehh. Coup by definition includes violence. No one was accusing Dems of a coup when they were begging the electoral college electors to go faithless in 2017 and pick Hillary. No one even accused the electors that followed through on that of committing a coup.

Subverting the will of the people and the electoral system? Sure. Yellow bellied shyster lawyering? Absolutely. Dirty, scoundrel...there are lots of accurate and uncomplimentary words for it. Coup is not among them.
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There have been plenty of non-violent coups in modern times. Thailand seems to have one every 5 years or so. It is factually incorrect and a myth that coups have to include violence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths-about-coups/2020/05/07/9c64ee04-8f1d-11ea-a9c0-73b93422d691_story.html

"Unlike in armed conflict and civil wars, fighting and death are not defining features of coups. Sure, all coup attempts involve at least the implicit threat of force, but fewer than half result in fatalities, according to data compiled by the political scientist Erica De Bruin. My own data suggests that 80 percent of coup attempts under autocracy involved explicit threats of force, less than 60 percent saw shots fired, less than 15 percent led to at least 25 deaths (a standard threshold among scholars for armed conflict) and only 1 percent escalated to fighting that caused at least 1,000 deaths (a standard threshold for civil war)."

The threat of violence can be substituted for actual violence... with so many from Trump's side suggesting Marshal Law (using misinformation, propaganda, and outright lies for justification) should be implemented... its not a stretch.
 
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