GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

sounds socialist to me...marxist even
 
That general welfare clause is the source of most of the evil **** government does. Freedom isnt the ability to just make the perceived "right" choice.
 
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i'm just not a cafeteria constitutionalist

a lot of things we take for granted (eg interstate highway system, parks, environmental and food safety laws) come under the umbrella of promoting the general welfare
 
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And none of those things are worth what the government has done using the general welfare clause. The constitution is virtually meaningless. It can and is twisted to fit whatever bias a person has and thats not exclusive to left or right. The constitution was supposed to limit government but in reality they use it to expand their power. Many judges do actively consider how their opinions will effect their future. Judges who dont rule in the governments favor arent likely to get appointed to a higher court. There are almost no judges who are appointed that have any real experiene as a defense lawyer. Its always prosecutors that get appointed.
 
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nsacpi said:
i'm just not a cafeteria constitutionalist

a lot of things we take for granted (eg interstate highway system, parks, environmental and food safety laws) come under the umbrella of promoting the general welfare
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I like all of those things. I think some weapons restrictions are reasonable. I can still realize there's no chance the General Welfare clause was intended to give the federal government carte blanche, and that the Second Amendment was written by private citizens who owned cannons.

The entire document was written by men who were afraid of a powerful centralized government, to restrain a government from becoming either too centralized or too powerful. The prostration to the General Welfare clause that we've seen ignores all of that. It essentially renders the rest of the document null and void. It is intellectually dishonest.
 
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I like all of those things. I think some weapons restrictions are reasonable. I can still realize there's no chance the General Welfare clause was intended to give the federal government carte blanche, and that the Second Amendment was written by prJeivate citizens who owned cannons.

The entire document was written by men who were afraid of a powerful centralized government, to restrain a government from becoming either too centralized or too powerful. The prostration to the General Welfare clause that we've seen ignores all of that. It essentially renders the rest of the document null and void. It is intellectually dishonest.
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then we have been intellectually dishonest from the start...Jefferson commissioned a group of explorers to find out what lay out west...seems like an extra constitutional power grab absent the general welfare clause...then los federales spent a lot of money building canals and waterways...again a power not specified under the constitution other than as a way to provide for the general welfare...more recently we went to the moon just simply because we are a questing people...nothing in the constitution about satisfying our sense of wanderlust
 
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The problem i .centralizing everything does the exact opposite of promoting the general wellfare. there is a reason everything DC touches go to ****.

So by this logic it is unconstitutional due to hurting the general welfare
 
sturg33 said:
Thanks for mansplaining how a woman should feel alone with her kids when a crowd surrounds her house yelling in megaphone.

Those crowds have never ever become violent in the past.

Put that woman in her place! Tell her she is being way too dramatic!!
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You try really hard

This isn’t mansplaining

And nice for you to keep your narrative, albeit false narrative, about betting with you.

But being honest he always been tough for you. You have more fun twisting truth to the way you wish it was

More evidence of why it was said you don’t argue in good faith btw
 
They don’t give a ****. It really doesn’t matter to this cult

But that video is great
 
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I know fraud boy


I posted a video of something that the guy that makes you melt. We really don’t have to lo freak out about that
 
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