GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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cajunrevenge said:
police say they need all kinds of military equipment but wtf was it during an insurrection? Seems like the time the police needed a tank. Whatever happened to firing a shot into the air. That would have made the crowd disperse imo.
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Isn't that what they make rubber bullets for?

The people and equipment needed were forced to stand down by the WH. There's no other way this happens.
 
Washington (CNN) - President Donald Trump and his attorney Rudy Giuliani both mistakenly made calls to Republican Sen. Mike Lee as deadly riots were unfolding at the US Capitol earlier this week, a spokesman for the senator confirmed to CNN -- calls that were intended for another GOP senator the White House was frantically trying to convince to delay the counting of Electoral College votes.

Lee's spokesman said the calls from Trump and his attorney were intended for Sen. Tommy Tuberville, a newly elected Republican from Alabama.

The effort by the White House to get Tuberville to delay certification of the votes provides insight into the President's thinking and priorities as a mob of his supporters lay siege to the iconic building. As the President worked to convince Tuberville to delay the process, he and other top White House officials did little to check in on Vice President Mike Pence while he and members of his family were inside the breached Capitol, a source close to the vice president told CNN.

Trump first called the personal cell phone of Lee, a Utah Republican, shortly after 2 p.m. ET. At that time the senators had been evacuated from the Senate floor and were in a temporary holding room, as a pro-Trump mob began breaching the Capitol.



Lee picked up the phone and Trump identified himself, and it became clear he was looking for Tuberville and had been given the wrong number. Lee, keeping the President on hold, went to find his colleague and handed Tuberville his phone, telling him the President was on the line and had been trying to reach him.
 
...Tuberville spoke with Trump for less than 10 minutes, with the President trying to convince him to make additional objections to the Electoral College vote in a futile effort to block Congress' certification of President-elect Joe Biden's win, according to a source familiar with the call. The call was cut off because senators were asked to move to a secure location.

CNN has reached out to Tuberville's office for comment.

The second call to Lee came in at 7 p.m. ET from Giuliani. Lee did not answer the call so it went to voicemail. Lee's office confirmed to CNN that the voicemail was intended for Tuberville and the message left from Giuliani was very similar to one that another unnamed GOP senator received. The transcript of that call was published by the conservative outlet The Dispatch as well as the news blog emptywheel.

"Sen. Tuberville? Or I should say Coach Tuberville. This is Rudy Giuliani, the President's lawyer," he said according to to the transcript.

"I'm calling you because I want to discuss with you how they're trying to rush this hearing and how we need you, our Republican friends, to try to just slow it down so we can get these legislatures to get more information to you," Giuliani said, referring to unfounded claims of voter fraud in the presidential election.

"I know they're reconvening at 8 tonight, but it ... the only strategy we can follow is to object to numerous states and raise issues so that we get ourselves into tomorrow -- ideally until the end of tomorrow."
 
The people that claim healthcare isn’t a right

Are arguing that twitter is a right
 
No one can convince me they care about free speech if they support the Don. He has done nothing but attack people for their speech and as soon as he got the power of the government he used it to retaliate against people for their speech. He has been clear, free speech to Trump means you are free to praise him as the savior of humanity.
 
...there was zero evidence in the wake of the riot that the broader Trump base was demoralized by what had happened. Trump was cheered by RNC members when he called into the group's winter meeting on Thursday, according to The Washington Post.

Trump -- and the base he leads -- isn't going away because of what happened Wednesday at the US Capitol. As Nebraska Sen. Ben Sasse told conservative radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt Friday morning: "Donald Trump was walking around the White House confused about why other people on his team weren't as excited as he was as you had rioters pushing against Capitol Police trying to get into the building. ...That was happening. He was delighted."

The only way you can conclude that Trump is over is to believe that Wednesday's riot was seen by him and his supporters as a black mark on not just his presidency but the presidency. Instead, all available information suggests they saw it as a triumph.
 
goldfly said:
Hahahahaha

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I used to be so perplexed how.something like nazi Germany could happen. How could the German citizens go along with it??

I see now how easy it is.

The government and press tells you these are terrorists.

You believe them.

They kill them.

You laugh and cheer
 
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I love how Sturg thinks he's making good points, but really it's just a collection of dumb statements that have nothing to do witht he conversation.
 
cajunrevenge said:
No one can convince me they care about free speech if they support the Don. He has done nothing but attack people for their speech and as soon as he got the power of the government he used it to retaliate against people for their speech. He has been clear, free speech to Trump means you are free to praise him as the savior of humanity.
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Yeah. I think anyone who truly cares about free speech, the constitution, rule of law, etc, would not have spent the past four years supporting him or making excuses for him and his followers. It is now clear he and his movement represent an anti-democratic fascist tendency that is the biggest threat to our system of government since the Civil War.
 
nsacpi said:
Yeah. I think anyone who truly cares about free speech, the constitution, rule of law, etc, would not have spent the past four years supporting him or making excuses for him and his followers. It is now clear he and his movement represent an anti-democratic fascist tendency that is the biggest threat to our system of government since the Civil War.
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You’re almost as insane as Cajun is
 
Krgrecw said:
You’re almost as insane as Cajun is
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It's interesting that you used cajun as your insanity reference and not the obvious. Very interesting.

So, compared to cajun, who mainly just wants to get high in peace from what I can tell, just how insane would you rate Hornman and the folks who attacked the Capitol?
 
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