GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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I honestly hope they don't indict Trump. That will set the precedent of indicting presidents when they leave office which will just get messy.
 
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And Trump lawsuit in Georgia thrown out for lack of evidence. We will be seeing a lot of this. Many of the lawsuits seem to be "we think something might have happened but have no proof beyond this highly partisan person who claims to have seen something". Thats not how this works, thats not how any of this works. I envy the lawyers getting rich from filing this crap for Trump.
 
BedellBrave said:
That high -- particularly with Trump's "China virus" routine. That made the lives of many fine folk a whole lot harder.
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It's a pretty diverse group. The Vietnamese had similar experiences to the Cubans. So they will always be a bit more to the right.

The older Asians I know were receptive to him in 2016 but now find him to be embarrassing and repugnant.

I had a very heartfelt conversation with the owner of the Indian restaurant I patronize. The thing that upset him more than anything else was the constant lying. He wondered how his supporters had any self-respect when he was constantly lying to them. Good question.
 
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striker42 said:
I honestly hope they don't indict Trump. That will set the precedent of indicting presidents when they leave office which will just get messy.
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I could not disagree more. Many of the crimes he is suspected of are from before he was President. Those absolutely have to be dealt with. I can understand the argument for not prosecuting for crimes in office. I would still vigorously disagree though. It sends the wrong message to them.
 
nsacpi said:
It's a pretty diverse group. The Vietnamese had similar experiences to the Cubans. So they will always be a bit more to the right.

The older Asians I know were receptive to him in 2016 but now find him to be embarrassing and repugnant.

I had a very heartfelt conversation with the owner of the Indian restaurant I patronize. The thing that upset him more than anything else was the constant lying. He wondered how his supporters had any self-respect when he was constantly lying to them. Good question.
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For all his faults, and they are legion, he was (or someone was) very sharp in their strategy. Like with Hispanics in FL, the Trump campaign totally went for the Cuban and Colombian vote. Maybe he did that sort of thing within the Asian vote too -- very targeted.
 
striker42 said:
I honestly hope they don't indict Trump. That will set the precedent of indicting presidents when they leave office which will just get messy.
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If it's for something he did prior to becoming POTUS, it's fair game, imo. While he's in office, there's probably a lot of gray area that would be super hard to prove and a waste of tax payer money. He got the stain of impeachment on him and I don't imagine history books will remember him kindly.
 
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BedellBrave said:
For all his faults, and they are legion, he was (or someone was) very sharp in their strategy. Like with Hispanics in FL, the Trump campaign totally went for the Cuban and Colombian vote. Maybe he did that sort of thing within the Asian vote.
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His campaigns have been attuned to certain things the Democrats don't really understand. One of them is many people from minority groups completely reject and are offended by identity politics. Interestingly enough, Donald Harris (Kamala's father) is one of them, even though his personal views are on the left.
 
nsacpi said:
Hard disagree. No one is above the law.
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Suppose a foreign national had committed a crime and was awaiting trial. This individual is very important in his home country, a country the US has tense relations with. As part of a diplomatic agreement to ease tensions, the US agrees to release this individual to return to his home country. Is that wrong? Is that person above the law?

In this scenario, the criminal is being released because there are things more important than punishing him at stake. I feel the same way about Trump. Sure NY could throw him in jail, but what will happen with Biden four years from now? For that matter, there's a reasonable chance some Republican DA might try to dig up something on Obama.

Letting Trump off the hook wouldn't be for his benefit. It would be to ease tensions and not cause shots to be fired in the future.
 
striker42 said:
Suppose a foreign national had committed a crime and was awaiting trial. This individual is very important in his home country, a country the US has tense relations with. As part of a diplomatic agreement to ease tensions, the US agrees to release this individual to return to his home country. Is that wrong? Is that person above the law?

In this scenario, the criminal is being released because there are things more important than punishing him at stake. I feel the same way about Trump. Sure NY could throw him in jail, but what will happen with Biden four years from now? For that matter, there's a reasonable chance some Republican DA might try to dig up something on Obama.

Letting Trump off the hook wouldn't be for his benefit. It would be to ease tensions and not cause shots to be fired in the future.
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Interesting analogy. In the case of the diplomat he should be put on trial. Then as part of a diplomatic settlement you can have his sentence reduced and he can be sent home. This allows you to fulfill (at least partially) the requirements of justice and diplomacy.

I hope you can see where this analogy takes us.
 
nsacpi said:
His campaigns have been attuned to certain things the Democrats don't really understand. One of them is many people from minority groups completely reject and are offended by identity politics. Interestingly enough, Donald Harris (Kamala's father) is one of them, even though his personal views are on the left.
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Agreed and why I think it's very important for both parties to pay more attention to the results of this election. How in Hades did he have a chance after this year? Frankly, the higher-ups and idealogues in both parties seem to fairly clueless.
 
striker42 said:
I honestly hope they don't indict Trump. That will set the precedent of indicting presidents when they leave office which will just get messy.
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you'd be encouraging blatant corruption at least while in the white house. that's absurd. he should finally face consequences for his life of grift theft and corruption.
 
Biden has said he wont get involved as he shouldnt. Thats going to be up to the next AG. I expect a big deal to be made of it during confirmation.
 
BedellBrave said:
the higher-ups and idealogues in both parties seem to fairly clueless.
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they're mostly insulated from the world and out-of-touch.
i think trump, to his credit, recognized that. he's, of course, completely out of touch himself. but he somehow got people to believe he wasn't and that he was one of them.

we need younger people actually focused on the people rather than their political careers.
 
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yet it would benefit him greatly.
he needs to be held accountable. how insane to say otherwise.
we should let him off the hook. unreal.
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It would benefit him but you wouldn't be doing it for him. You'd be doing it for others that will hold or have held the office.

You say it's insane to let him off the hook. I ask you this, do you consider prosecuting Trump to be worth Obama getting indicted by 13 DA's across 5 states? Is punishing him worth watching Biden in his 80's be led away in handcuffs because some Republican DA somewhere thinks he'll make a name for himself?

That's what I want to avoid. You'd get nothing from seeing Trump go to jail other than a fleeting feeling of glee at the misfortune of someone you loathe. I don't think that's worth the fallout in the future.
 
nsacpi said:
It's a pretty diverse group. The Vietnamese had similar experiences to the Cubans. So they will always be a bit more to the right.

The older Asians I know were receptive to him in 2016 but now find him to be embarrassing and repugnant.

I had a very heartfelt conversation with the owner of the Indian restaurant I patronize. The thing that upset him more than anything else was the constant lying. He wondered how his supporters had any self-respect when he was constantly lying to them. Good question.
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Subscribers to white grievance politics don’t care about anything other than having their grievances acknowledged. The sooner libs get this through their heads, the sooner they will start peeling away voters from trump.

Telling folks they are racist and their problems don’t matter is terrible politics, and Dems excel at terrible politics.

Give the children monster spray so they can vanquish imaginary monsters. It costs nothing and makes them like you. Stop calling people stupid, and instead use their stupidity to your advantage. Trump understands this because he’s a brilliant conman.
 
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And no, people don’t have to be white to subscribe to white grievance politics.

The Asian guy who made it in the white mans world doesn’t want to see a “hand out” given to others who haven’t made it yet. Allowing that to happen would invalidate his hard work, therefore shouldn’t be allowed.
 
No matter what happens

Thethe was on point of a landslide victory

Still time to find out if newest cult member freedom boy is right that trump will leave if results go against him

But signs not good with his actions since election day
 
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