Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
And in more recent times protected the IRA. They would deal with problems amongst themselves, but it was suicidal for outsiders like agents of the crowns to even try.
GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden
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And in more recent times protected the IRA. They would deal with problems amongst themselves, but it was suicidal for outsiders like agents of the crowns to even try.
Why is it hard to understand that people support a candidate that has had one of the most successful presidencies in the last 100 years?
Why is it hard to understand that people support a candidate that fights against the leftist/progressive narrative that goes against our internal beliefs?
Why is it hard to understand that mostly all those that are heavily invested in the anti trump movement hate the way his supporters think and live their lives?
Why is it hard to understand that people support a candidate that fights against the leftist/progressive narrative that goes against our internal beliefs?
Why is it hard to understand that mostly all those that are heavily invested in the anti trump movement hate the way his supporters think and live their lives?
Jaw
It's OVER 5,000!
Understand that I'm happily part of that Scotch-Irish culture and would vote him a third time today if we were redoing the election. Nsacpi's question just happened to be one I've thought about when seeing some people I've long known who surprised me with the vehemence of their support, in light of his personal flaws. He doesn't have a bigger supporter than my childhood Sunday school teacher, and I would have tasted the back of her hand if I had even spoken of some things that he's actually done
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Dude...you legitimately call anyone who doesn't like Trump "evil," and you talk about how supporting Trump is supporting "good vs evil" and other crap like that. You are exactly what you try to claim the left is, in this regard.
I remember the bush years. I was among those who though bush and anyone that supports him were stupid rubes.
This election was clearly driven by love vs hate. Nobody though one second about Biden. We aren’t the side legislating thought.
And I do believe the left is what I’ve described them as. Anyone that wants to dictate how I live my life has ill intentions.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I mean, you still are. Unfortunately for those of us who value thought, a portion of the left joined in.
We aren’t and I’d love for you to present your case that we are.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I didn't like Bush. Thought he was pretty much an idiot. But I did support his war vs religion, even if he didn't recognize it fully for what it was, is, and should be.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
As long as your base is still largely the religious right, you are legislating thought and, some would argue worse, morals. If you really want, I can come up with plenty of examples, though I'm fairly certain it would be a waste of my time.
Nobody is telling you what you should be thinking or saying. We just want the freedom to think and act as we deem fit.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I thought we were talking about actual legislation? No?
100% and I was planning on clarifying that as well.
Individuals can tell me what they want any time they want. I can choose to listen or not.
It’s even more than legislation. It’s when the orthodoxy moves into the corporate/private world where I have to be careful what I say online or else I can get cancelled. It’s those types of things that are being pushed by the fanatical left that has pushed so many people to vote for trump.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
I have a lot of problems with cancel culture, but the right have been doing their version of that for AGES. My dad was fired several times when his job discovered he was gay. I've been fired once when my boss found out I was an atheist. This is all the right's version of cancelling. These stories could go on and on. Just 2 years ago my roommate went unemployed for 19 months after he was fired when his partner died from AIDS. He didn't get another job until someone told him he was being blackballed for being gay, and that he needed to adjust his resume/references. This is someone who had worked as an architect for 30+ years. Fired. Kicked out of their homes. Beat up. Shunned. On and ****ing on. The left did not create cancel culture. Some of them just, unfortunately, started wielding it.
Your experience was just dealing with bigots at an individual level which is awful and should be removed from society at all costs. The left institutionalized it and has become much more widespread and dangerous.
Fortunately, thr new populist party is strongly against what your earlier experiences were. While we feel that a strong Judaeo/Christian value set is most conducive to a respectful and prosperous society we welcome outside thought as long as it doesn't get pushed down our families throats (via institutions like hollywood/education/,corporate america)
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
No, they didn't. No, it hasn't. It just started to finally have an effect on the right, so like everything else they decide it is suddenly an issue and much more of a problem than it ever has been.
You are trying to be serious right now? I can't even tell.
This is what I find funny.
As Dalyn points out, the right has been discriminating and playing identity politics long before it was mainstream by the left. When the left started “fighting back” then it became “oh my god how terrible they are”.
It’s like when Cuomo talked **** to the reporter. It was such a terrible thing, but Trump does it regularly for years and it’s normalized.
The right is constantly changing the goal posts and moving the arguments to distract. Then when the left has to defend against the rights absurd claims like men dressing as woman to go take photos under bathroom stalls, the right instantly attach’s this “this is what the left is fighting for” stigma and it just scares people even more.
The right and their trolls hijacked the actual meaning of Black Lives Matter.
As Dalyn points out, the right has been discriminating and playing identity politics long before it was mainstream by the left. When the left started “fighting back” then it became “oh my god how terrible they are”.
It’s like when Cuomo talked **** to the reporter. It was such a terrible thing, but Trump does it regularly for years and it’s normalized.
The right is constantly changing the goal posts and moving the arguments to distract. Then when the left has to defend against the rights absurd claims like men dressing as woman to go take photos under bathroom stalls, the right instantly attach’s this “this is what the left is fighting for” stigma and it just scares people even more.
The right and their trolls hijacked the actual meaning of Black Lives Matter.
Dalyn
Fredi Gonzalez Supporter
Just because you ignored something for years and years and years doesn't mean it didn't already exist and wasn't just as dangerous and widespread as it is now that it has touched your bubble. You guys do this with practically everything. It is so old.
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