GDT: 11/3/20, Election Day, Donald J. Trump vs. Joseph R. Biden

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Exactly, you’re a fraud I don’t trust

Those are good reasons to not wager with someone lol

Much less, like your boy, you’d disagree and still say he’s peacefully leaving through all this

You really are dumb as dirt lol
 
sure, i'll go wager at some online thing for ya lol

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that you can't understand you would have already lost the bet about "leaving peacefully" speaks volumes about you and makes sense that you embraced this cult that you voted for
 
Sooooooo....

You're not gonna bet on the public site that will give you a 20:1 payout?

So weird.

You've been telling us for months he won't leave. You've been posting articles about military sluts crying about their concern. You've assured us he is a fascist who doesn't care about the rule of law.

Why on earth are you not profiting on this coup? You don't gotta bet with sturg33 as I know you're a coward, but you can bet with predictit and clean up!

What's stopping you? There's a huge coup going on. Bodies on the street. The military is ready. Literal Hitler 2.0 is ready to start his roundups.

Why not profit??

LOL you're pathetic little one. What are you gonna do in 15 days when he's gone??
 
i literally went to your link and it said it's settled lol

the bet was, would he peacefully leave

he isn't peacefully leaving

thus you would have lost


this really isn't complicated to understand
 
You really aren’t bright

Which makes it awkward when you try to act like you’re levitating above the rest of us
 
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Leaving peacefully

Literally calling for his Vice President to disavow democracy and what the people have voted for
 
So Sturgs idea of not leaving peacefully is Trump barricading himself in the Oval Office with a gun and shooting at whoever tries to remove him?
 
No wonder Scotland just announced they are locking everything down through the end of January
 
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For perspective on how far the GOP has fallen, let’s just remember that

the hero of the Trump phone call story has a day job disenfranchising

Black voters in Georgia.

I think you meant to post this in the meme thread. I'm laughing at the idiocy with you. This guy is like Wile E Coyote. Funny stuff.
 
My thoughts on this in my untrained legal opinion.


- "my client is a delusional nutjob" is a tough defense for the President of the United States.

- His delusions are a part of his persona. He is unable to accept that he lost anything ever. If this was an isolated incident I think there would be a strong case that he actually believes it but when its his everyday behavior not convicting him is giving him a license to break the law. I like to watch/study sovereign citizens a lot and this reminds me a lot of them. That they legitimately believe their BS doesnt help them one bit.


- When Trump tells Raffensperger to "just say you recalculated" that is soliciting election fraud.

- Trump continues to make the same accusations after they were shown to him to be false.

- His aids have leaked to the media that he knows he lost. Would be interesting to subpoena them to testify.


- If he thought he won why did he demote Brad Parscale? I think they could subpoena records from the Trump campaign that show he was informed of how bad he was doing. Its not like he was polling well and severely under performed the polls which would be a reason to think there was fraud.


- Then theres also the issue of his actual attempted voter fraud using DeJoy and the Post office and what he was impeached for. His plan with the post office was thwarted because Democrats sued to and the courts ordered DeJoy to ensure the election mail was delivered on time but Trump did exactly what we thought his plan was and sued to not allow ballots received after 8 pm on election night. Had DeJoy not been sued by Democrats this could have flipped PA. Then there was the attempted extortion of Ukraine to help his campaign cheat. I dont think he can claim he legitimately believes he was screwed when he was actively trying to commit voter and election fraud. A person doesnt do those types of things if they think they are going to win.


Whether the call was a crime or not will depend a lot on the specific elements of the various election fraud crimes and the exact nature of what was said. If he knows he lost and is trying to get the election tipped his way, that call is likely illegal. If he legitimately believes he won, it becomes a much closer thing. He's asking the Secretary of State to lie but he's also operating under the sincere belief that the Secretary of State is standing on illegitimate figures. It's a closer call and is far from some of the over the top claims we've been hearing (e.g. sedition).

Again, I've not exhaustively researched these statutes. There are dozens relating to elections and I haven't researched all the elements required to be convicted of breaking them. Just saying if he sincerely believes he won, it changes the situation legally.

The fact that he operates under these delusions in every area of his life actually would strengthen his case that he was operating under a sincere belief he won and was trying to set the election right. However, I also don't see Trump going out there with the defense that his narcissistic delusions led to his belief he won.

If there were people around him who he admitted to that he knows he lost, that would change things. If he knows he legitimately lost and believes that, then the call is much more sinister.

Just listening to that call, it makes me think that Trump believes he won. That also fits with other things I've observed of Trump's personality.
 
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Cult supporters openly talking about civil war to keep him in office
 
Probably 99% of the people I see online supporting this drivel are typically low educated and 40+ years of age.

People get caught up with the targeted advertising.

FB, GOOGLE, etc...all direct ads and articles to you that you have clicked on before.... thus you get exposed to more of the same.

This stuff creates a bubble of truth that old people get sucked into because "back in their day" the news media didn't have an agenda or need clicks to stay in business. They just reported the news and whoever did it better got the most views. But they weren't paid per click....

So clickbait was born and whether you intend to or not... we all buy into it.
 
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