GDT 4/19 vs. Nats

thethe said:
Why include residential property if not for development? Population trends are positive for this area and in general I remember reading that more and more Americans want to move away from big cities.
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I think you could argue that the current trend is actually the opposite.
 
thewupk said:
Still should wait a little longer. Through 6 games last year the Braves averaged 27K and were on pace for right under 2.2 million. The average per game slowly dropped throughout the year. We will see what happens this year.

edit: I just don't see the initial increase as being as big as other stadiums that have recently opened.
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They had a weekend series against the Cardinals and the sixth game was against the Dodgers. Both teams traditionally draw as road teams. We won't truly know the impact of the new stadium for another 3 years. This first year will have an artificial bump. I'm interested in what 2020 attendance is going to be because the last few years in Atlanta have been gross.
 
thethe said:
They had a weekend series against the Cardinals and the sixth game was against the Dodgers. Both teams traditionally draw as road teams. We won't truly know the impact of the new stadium for another 3 years. This first year will have an artificial bump. I'm interested in what 2020 attendance is going to be because the last few years in Atlanta have been gross.
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The impact is going to be like any other new stadium that's been built. Initial increase and either a fast or slow decline back to pre new stadium levels. The better the team the slower that decline will be. Moving the stadium isn't going to cure Atlanta attendance issues overall. Not having a big bump this year would be pretty awful.
 
Julio3000 said:
I'm not really sure how 500 apartments represents some kind of strategic commitment to community development, but ok.
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It would be foolish to build thousands of residential properties up front. It's a long term plan and again population trends for Cobb are very encouraging.
 
thewupk said:
Still should wait a little longer. Through 6 games last year the Braves averaged 27K and were on pace for right under 2.2 million. The average per game slowly dropped throughout the year. We will see what happens this year.

edit: I just don't see the initial increase as being as big as other stadiums that have recently opened.
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You see that sh*t we are putting out there?

Garcia

Swanson should be batting 8th

Left Field, who the f*ck ever is playing that position has no business in the majors, a giant suckfest out there.

Krol the Troll needs to be packing, anyone has Paco on speed dial?

Teheran let Harper be his personal bitch AGAIN. It is like he freezes up and see Bluto at the plate with a bat that is 3 feet wide vertically.

Garcia

Snitker

Garcia DP machine

Our bench is worse than anything we have. Hell the Braves from 1976 through 1990 (Dark Ages) had a bench ten times better even at their worst.

Oh did I say Garcia
 
thewupk said:
The impact is going to be like any other new stadium that's been built. Initial increase and either a fast or slow decline back to pre new stadium levels. The better the team the slower that decline will be. Moving the stadium isn't going to cure Atlanta attendance issues overall. Not having a big bump this year would be pretty awful.
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That's where the development of Cobb comes in. The projections are probably for continued increased population.
 
thewupk said:
Still should wait a little longer. Through 6 games last year the Braves averaged 27K and were on pace for right under 2.2 million. The average per game slowly dropped throughout the year. We will see what happens this year.

edit: I just don't see the initial increase as being as big as other stadiums that have recently opened.
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Now you want to wait a bit longer to judge it?

That's fine. I'm not judging it. Just giving info.
 
If the Braves don't get a very large bump this year, it will be a very bad sign.

I'm hoping they do. But again - the FO goal was 3M in attendance. They won't come close. So are they just being fluffy or are they this bad at forecasting?
 
jsebe10 said:
I've seen three Braves as locked in this much and that's Marcus Giles when he went like 10-10 or 11-11, Chipper Jones, and Freddie...quite amazing.
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Diaz had a moment like that, too. Ten straight hits, or something like that.
 
Forever Fredi said:
I've wanted to trade Julio since 2014 tbh.

[MENTION=18]Dalyn[/MENTION] and I have been consistent with that. He's shown flashes of brilliance but never consistently to warrant being a true ace. Just not efficient with pitch counts and does not know how to make pitch.
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Yep. He probably should've been traded during the initial rebuild (end of 2014 might be his peak trade value), but he definitely should've after last year.
 
sturg33 said:
If the Braves don't get a very large bump this year, it will be a very bad sign.

I'm hoping they do. But again - the FO goal was 3M in attendance. They won't come close. So are they just being fluffy or are they this bad at forecasting?
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Legit question...was this said by the front office?
 
thethe said:
I'll have to search for that. Because I think announcing a targetted attendance is a stupid move.
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“I think 3 million is a stretch, but it’s something we certainly have as a goal,” said Derek Schiller, the Braves’ president of business. “Like every business, we’ve got to have our goals, and that’s a good goal.”

He's essentially admitting that it's unrealistic, but that it's a goal.

There are plenty of instances of execs saying that they expect significant increases, though.

Bottom line for me is that they need a winning team in order to do that, so it might take a while.
 
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