GDT: 5/17 Braves vs Blue Jays

CJ9 said:
I'm on board with this 99.9 percent of the time. Just think it was horrible timing for him to do it considering as much as they'd pissed the Braves off with multiple HBPs and up and in pitches, plus they'd just knocked our franchise star out for a significant amount of time. Add in that tensions were already high, and that bat flip was more pronounced than Bautista's usual ones.
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even then I just don't care, its just a bat flip - do I think its smart? No not really, but just get the dude out and you don't have to worry about it. Be offended that you gave up a home run, not that he's celebrating it.
 
celebrate, have fun.. but when you are getting your ass kicked by a bad team for the 3rd straight night.. maybe 'celebrating' is going to look sorta selfish. Not sure I would be all in the mood to 'celebrate' my individual accomplishment when I know my team is bad and losing yet again. but maybe I am just a boring white guy..
 
Preacher said:
even then I just don't care, its just a bat flip - do I think its smart? No not really, but just get the dude out and you don't have to worry about it. Be offended that you gave up a home run, not that he's celebrating it.
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Of course, as fans we don't care. It's a little different down there on the field. Easy to sit back and say "Be a robot." The score was 8-3 when Bautista hit his HR. If it had been a crucial hit in the grand scheme of things, I wouldn't have faulted him for doing sommersaults around the bases. I'm not going to say what he did was classless, but given how the game had unfolded, it was kind of stupid.
 
I'm not saying its smart or a 'good optics' to flip the bat in that situation, what I'm saying is the reaction it gets is completely overboard.

How many football games have we seen where a safety lights up a WR after giving up a 30 yard reception, then gets up and celebrates like he did something good? Its silly, but the offensive players don't come back on the next play and spear him.

Baseball players as a whole are the biggest babies in sports, literally everything seems to offend them.
 
Preacher said:
I'm not saying its smart or a 'good optics' to flip the bat in that situation, what I'm saying is the reaction it gets is completely overboard.

How many football games have we seen where a safety lights up a WR after giving up a 30 yard reception, then gets up and celebrates like he did something good? Its silly, but the offensive players don't come back on the next play and spear him.

Baseball players as a whole are the biggest babies in sports, literally everything seems to offend them.
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The Braves' reaction must also be viewed in context. 6 hit by pitches before Freeman gets hit. Pillar's hissy fit. Maybe Peterson and Suzuki don't react at all if none of the above had happened. Context matters. And I think context will lead to some retaliation tonight.
 
Suck it up. The Braves are always classy. Yeah the jerk did a bat flip stare down. So even if you don't think there was anything wrong, they freaking hit our players, we didn't complain. I love more emotion about it. Sorry to JoeyBats apologist but he'd have a fastball in his ear hole. Then again, I don't like jawing back forth. Throw knuckles.
 
Major League Baseball is investigating whether Kevin Pillar used a homophobic slur during a heated on-field exchange Wednesday with Braves reliever Jason Motte.
Motte threw a quick-pitch to strike out Pillar in the top of the seventh inning and the Blue Jays center fielder took offense. If the evidence proves he used homophobic language when confronting Motte, a suspension could be coming. Yunel Escobar was suspended three games by the Blue Jays in 2012 after taking the field with a derogatory term for homosexuals inscribed on his eye-black.
Source: Sportsnet.caMay 18 - 11:37 AM
 
Tapate50 said:
Major League Baseball is investigating whether Kevin Pillar used a homophobic slur during a heated on-field exchange Wednesday with Braves reliever Jason Motte.
Motte threw a quick-pitch to strike out Pillar in the top of the seventh inning and the Blue Jays center fielder took offense. If the evidence proves he used homophobic language when confronting Motte, a suspension could be coming. Yunel Escobar was suspended three games by the Blue Jays in 2012 after taking the field with a derogatory term for homosexuals inscribed on his eye-black.
Source: Sportsnet.caMay 18 - 11:37 AM
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I mean, there's no doubt.
 
Preacher said:
I'm not saying its smart or a 'good optics' to flip the bat in that situation, what I'm saying is the reaction it gets is completely overboard.

How many football games have we seen where a safety lights up a WR after giving up a 30 yard reception, then gets up and celebrates like he did something good? Its silly, but the offensive players don't come back on the next play and spear him.

Baseball players as a whole are the biggest babies in sports, literally everything seems to offend them.
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Tell that to guys like Odell Beckham. Football is non-stop trash talk and cheap shots. The big difference between football and baseball is football is far more dynamic. Guys get their revenge in all the time within the play. Don't really have that opportunity in baseball because the transgressions are much more out in the open.

As for African-Americans shying away from baseball, the "code" is probably at the bottom of the list. Inner city baseball programs have been decimated and it usually costs money to be on traveling teams in the summer. If you're poor, you're SOL. Much easier and cheaper to grab the basketball and head down to the outdoor court.
 
50PoundHead said:
Tell that to guys like Odell Beckham. Football is non-stop trash talk and cheap shots. The big difference between football and baseball is football is far more dynamic. Guys get their revenge in all the time within the play. Don't really have that opportunity in baseball because the transgressions are much more out in the open.

As for African-Americans shying away from baseball, the "code" is probably at the bottom of the list. Inner city baseball programs have been decimated and it usually costs money to be on traveling teams in the summer. If you're poor, you're SOL. Much easier and cheaper to grab the basketball and head down to the outdoor court.
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Exactly. This notion that this kind of stuff doesn't happen in the NFL is a false one, as I already pointed out in another thread. It happens in every sport.
 
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