GDT 5/19: Folty v Woodruff

Sucked to lose last night but if this is the Folty we get the rest of the season things are looking good.
 
What, only pitching 5 innings because he can’t handle the heat and gets dizzy? Yeah then things are looking real good

seemed to handle the heat fine last season.
yesterday was progress in him returning to form. almost swept a really good team. nothing to be upset about.
 
Folty was dominant yesterday. He hung a slider to hiura and paid for it. Tge pitches were crisp and the command was excellent.

I think this is the start of a great season for him.
 
I think Donaldson gets a QO and accepts it.

Oh and depth is a good thing.


Pullng this out from the thread. I agree. I think this is what is most likely to happen.

You'll get another season, perhaps (depending on if Riley's hot start is real or not) of an awkward fit in LF. Not unlike what happened with Chipper and Klesko back in the day.
 
Folty coming around would be a real bonus.

I wanted them to do more than they did with the bullpen during the offseason. Pretty strongly on the record about that. With that said, I think they have probably taken a pretty reasonable approach in working through their options, before finally arriving at using some of their premium starter arms for that purpose as a bridge. Next step is acquiring some more dependable help.
 
Touki is so much better in relief. Not sure if starting sikes him out or what. But when him doesn’t know he is pitching he throws well. This weekend was the first I actually got to see New Newk and that was impressive. He might make it hard to keep him out of the rotation.
 
Touki is so much better in relief. Not sure if starting sikes him out or what. But when him doesn’t know he is pitching he throws well. This weekend was the first I actually got to see New Newk and that was impressive. He might make it hard to keep him out of the rotation.

I like Newk better in the pen, some pitchers are just better in the pen than rotation. That's baseball, so they say.
 
I like Newk better in the pen, some pitchers are just better in the pen than rotation. That's baseball, so they say.

I'd hate to mess with Newcomb at the moment, but it isn't like he's never had success as a starter. And he's pretty much the same age as fried who just put it together this season, and still younger than folty was in his break out season last year
 
I'd hate to mess with Newcomb at the moment, but it isn't like he's never had success as a starter. And he's pretty much the same age as fried who just put it together this season, and still younger than folty was in his break out season last year

And Newk May be “just better out of the pen”. That is a very real possibility. But one of our favorite newbies this year said his time in the pen is why he is having the success this year. So is it safe to maybe see if Newk can do what Fried did. I don’t know but I would try it at some point. I think right now you don’t mess with it. But I like the idea of using Newk as a sixth starter to start limiting our innings on some of the kids. That is assuming everyone stays healthy and productive
 
Touki is so much better in relief. Not sure if starting sikes him out or what. But when him doesn’t know he is pitching he throws well. This weekend was the first I actually got to see New Newk and that was impressive. He might make it hard to keep him out of the rotation.

I agree on Touki and Newk looking better in the pen. They both seem very comfortable doing this.

The front office has to make choices and for now those two in the pen and allowing the others to develop as starters in the minors seems to be the right move.

There is still the option to give Touki and/or Newk one more look as a starter next spring.
 
Folty coming around would be a real bonus.

I wanted them to do more than they did with the bullpen during the offseason. Pretty strongly on the record about that. With that said, I think they have probably taken a pretty reasonable approach in working through their options, before finally arriving at using some of their premium starter arms for that purpose as a bridge. Next step is acquiring some more dependable help.

right, especially considering how volatile and risky even "steady" vet BP arms are. we've seen a bunch of FA BP guys flop this season.
 
And Newk May be “just better out of the pen”. That is a very real possibility. But one of our favorite newbies this year said his time in the pen is why he is having the success this year. So is it safe to maybe see if Newk can do what Fried did. I don’t know but I would try it at some point. I think right now you don’t mess with it. But I like the idea of using Newk as a sixth starter to start limiting our innings on some of the kids. That is assuming everyone stays healthy and productive

i don't think Newk is necessarily a BP guy for life now. he could get another opportunity. but i'd use him in the pen for this year at least.
 
Touki is so much better in relief. Not sure if starting sikes him out or what. But when him doesn’t know he is pitching he throws well. This weekend was the first I actually got to see New Newk and that was impressive. He might make it hard to keep him out of the rotation.

As I have been saying for a while now, a big part of the BP solution is to finally move the guys who don't belong in the rotation into the BP.

Newk and Touki are the prime examples of such pitchers. Touki's move to the BP may not be permanent, but it should be clear by now that Newk's role is being a weapon out of the BP.
 
I agree on Touki and Newk looking better in the pen. They both seem very comfortable doing this.

The front office has to make choices and for now those two in the pen and allowing the others to develop as starters in the minors seems to be the right move.

There is still the option to give Touki and/or Newk one more look as a starter next spring.

Both should be given a chance at the rotation next year and we should hope that their experience in the pen makes them better pitchers moving forward.
 
Both should be given a chance at the rotation next year and we should hope that their experience in the pen makes them better pitchers moving forward.

I wouldn't force it, but with injuries and all an opportunity for one of them might open up next spring.

Fried had to beat out some competition this spring. I don't think he was the favorite for a rotation spot heading into spring training. But he won the job.
 
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