Frieds a stud and just needs to be left alone as he acclimates to the majors.
From a pure stuff perspective he is easily the best in the organziation. Maybe Newk is the closest.
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Frieds a stud and just needs to be left alone as he acclimates to the majors.
From a pure stuff perspective he is easily the best in the organziation. Maybe Newk is the closest.
Tapate50
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Yep. They looked pretty durn good.
UNCBlue012
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Juke Lackson is the best. #MyCloser
bravesfanMatt
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Fried definitely “looked” completely different with an effective 3rd pitch. I didn’t notice any change ups but I also didn’t watch the whole game. He needs to figure his mechanical lapses he has. Most of his walks looked like he just lost his mechanics versus nibbling around and losing guys. The three straight walks he couldn’t hit his fastball then the one to Bryant looked like he was getting under his pitches and they were sailing up.
Tapate50
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Missing armside for that one inning was brutal. You could tell Mac was trying to get him to try and get more of the plate after a few off.
Tapate50
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Someone has to say it. You aren't even trying out there. No effort.
nsacpi
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that's why snit won't put him in the lineup...he's not programmed to play every day like the rest of us
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Did Fried have his best stuff? Nope.
Is he learning how to battle and pitch? Absolutely.
That was a very good lineup he beat last night. Sure he got lucky on that double play run down, but we only got three hits- and he won.
Sky is the limit for him from where I sit....
Is he learning how to battle and pitch? Absolutely.
That was a very good lineup he beat last night. Sure he got lucky on that double play run down, but we only got three hits- and he won.
Sky is the limit for him from where I sit....
CrazyTrain
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I'd like to see him alter his delivery some to generate more momentum to the plate vs falling off the bag towards 3rd base. I think this would help him stay on top of his pitches and be more mechanically consistent.
I'm not an expert, but to me it looks like he's using too much upper body, causing him to over torque and fly open at times. I'd like to see him generate more power with his lower body by pushing hard off his plant leg and finishing more towards home. He'd probably lose some spin, but would help with accuracy and consistency.
Something about cap tipping I presume.
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Or this.
The juiced ball would take this feat down a notch but Acuna is currently on pace for 39 homers. If he can get to 40 he will be the second 21 year old ever to reach that milestone behind the Braves own Eddie Matthews. Which is funny because it feels like Acuna has really only been hot for like 2-3 weeks so far this year. He's also on pace for 6 WAR which would put him at 10th best for a 21 year old since WW2. Between Al Kaline and Henry Aaron.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
I think Dans needs the night off so he can watch Vandy play. Give Johan or Culberson a go.
bravesfanMatt
Steve Harvey'd
Poor kid gets beat by a lot of crap hits.
He has. Luckily the Braves FO is now smarter than that.
Silly hyperbole about Fried aside, the addition of the SL has made him a legit option for the middle of the rotation.
Current xwOBA values of everyone with 250+ PAs against:
Mike Foltynewicz 0.347 (he needs to get straightened out)
Julio Teheran 0.327 (solid 4/5)
Kevin Gausman 0.324 (solid 4)
Max Fried 0.304 (solid 3)
Mike Soroka 0.291 (solid 2/3)
Not enough data on DK to make any sort of determination. It will be hard to rate him for a while as he knocks the rust off, then deals with a dead arm period. I expect him to settle in as another 3 though.
Current xwOBA values of everyone with 250+ PAs against:
Mike Foltynewicz 0.347 (he needs to get straightened out)
Julio Teheran 0.327 (solid 4/5)
Kevin Gausman 0.324 (solid 4)
Max Fried 0.304 (solid 3)
Mike Soroka 0.291 (solid 2/3)
Not enough data on DK to make any sort of determination. It will be hard to rate him for a while as he knocks the rust off, then deals with a dead arm period. I expect him to settle in as another 3 though.
With DK I think the rotation is good enough if the Braves add a couple of legit arms to the pen.
But looking at a couple of the most talked about starters it's clear who the better fit is with what the team currently has.
Bumgarner .337 WOBA
Storman .288 WOBA
We already have two guys who are just as good right now as Bumgarner. Stroman would be a legit upgrade over any one of our backend guys.
This is, by far, the best Stroman has pitched since 2015. The 3 seasons in between (~2000 PAs) saw his effectiveness sit between .310-.325.
I haven't really looked into Stroman much, and I'd agree to toss out his 2018 numbers a bit due to injury/rust, but he seems more like a .300-.320 guy than the guy who would be the best SP on the Braves roster.
This idea that Stroman is some sort of TOR stud that will fix a rotation is something I would have to be sold on a bit more to justify the price he is likely to command. Same with a late-comer like Boyd.
I don't think Stroman should be viewed as a TOR stud or anything. But I feel he is a lot like the Gausman addition of last year. He is an upgrade over what we have currently and has one more year left before he is a FA. With DK and Julio likely being gone after this year that is something the Braves will have to think about too.