GDT 7/31/22: Braves vs Diamondbacks - Sweepy Sunday

[msstate7]

Mangum always grabs the tools during a game, but I bet that dude doesn't touch crap when tv and fans aren't there

 

[chop2chip]

XFIP is a great stat that takes luck and fielding into account. This dude is not great.

Sure but should use assume normalized luck for every pitcher?

 

[zbhargrove]

XFIP is a great stat that takes luck and fielding into account. This dude is not great.

Wouldn’t be striker without him doubling and quadrupling down when he’s wrong

 

[striker42]

Sure but should use assume normalized luck for every pitcher?

The fact that his xFip is right in like with his career norms is pretty telling. Kelly didn't suddenly discover how to pitch in his early 30s.

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

Mangum always grabs the tools during a game, but I bet that dude doesn't touch crap when tv and fans aren't there

I’ve heard the opposite. He seems to take a lot of pride in his and the crew’s work

Can’t believe I’m debating the work of the grounds crew

 

[striker42]

Wouldn’t be striker without him doubling and quadrupling down when he’s wrong

Wouldn't be zbhargrove without ad hominems when there's no substance left to his argument.

 

[zbhargrove]

Wouldn't be zbhargrove without ad hominems when there's no substance left to his argument.

Lol says the guy who found his one stat to prove his point which still doesn’t matchup with the definition of “mediocre”

 

[msstate7]

I’ve heard the opposite. He seems to take a lot of pride in his and the crew’s work

Can’t believe I’m debating the work of the grounds crew

I drag people into these trivial arguments lol

 

[drewdat]

Just letting Kennedy breeze through us in his convertible SMH

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

I drag people into these trivial arguments lol

I figured you enjoy things like that. Haha

 

[jpx7]

That was a ball, but ok.

 

[zbhargrove]

Now that Lee has pitched I have zero confidence we can win this game with the current state of our pen’s back end

 

[striker42]

The lineup has just mailed it in today.

 

[Tapate50]

Cmon Ronnie

 

[msstate7]

Now that Lee has pitched I have zero confidence we can win this game with the current state of our pen’s back end

Nah, Jansen got this

 

[UNCBlue012]

I wish I were paid to not work, which is exactly what the Braves do every damn Sunday.

 

[jpx7]

XFIP is a great stat that takes luck and fielding into account. This dude is not great.

xFIP actually takes fielding out of the account, hence being Expected Fielding Independent Pitching. Essentially, xFIP just regresses the HR/FB component to league-average.

Given that Kelly's HardHit% is down by 5%, and his LA is up by a few degrees, it looks as if Kelly is inducing more weak fly balls this season—so his HR/FB, while likely to regress, isn't necessarily going to regress all the way to league-average.

But I agree dude is not great—that was never suggested; he's also better than average, which was the whole point.

 

[chop2chip]

xFIP actually takes fielding out of the account, hence being Expected Fielding Independent Pitching. Essentially, xFIP just regresses the HR/FB component to league-average.

Given that Kelly's HardHit% is down by 5%, and his LA is up by a few degrees, it looks as if Kelly is inducing more weak fly balls this season—so his HR/FB, while likely to regress, isn't necessarily going to regress all the way to league-average.

xFIP is awesome to tell you general things, but like all things, context and nuance matter.

It’s fair to question whether Kelly’s made an adjustment that’s lead to better results. It’s lazy to assume he hasn’t.

 

[chop2chip]

It’s hard to be thrown out by TDA/Kenley even if it’s just an over slide.

 

[CrimsonCowboy]

Just need one run and the best bats coming up