GDT: 8/26 Yankes @ Braves: Debut of next #MyAce

[Super]

Should we protest tomorrow's games over the 14-year old that Jacob Blake sexually assaulted?

source?
and for the record, that doesn't mean cops were justified in shooting him 7 times in that moment. what a twisted view.
i mean if that were case, then your boy...nvm

 

[striker42]

to be clear, there wasn't anything relatively close to a consensus on Anderson having "control issues." that narrative was based mostly on his struggles at each new level, which got ironed out as he pitched longer on that team. FG never mentioned any issues to my knowledge. the stats are broken down by level on FG and a few bad early starts can skew them as none of them are particularly large samples.

based on some of his minor league numbers, you would have expected to see more wildness out him yesterday. we saw him spike some balls in his last inning, probably due to not pitching a game for almost a year, but he was right around the zone all day.

Newcomb's minor league numbers weren't much worse, BB-wise, than Anderson's. but there's clearly a huge difference in their control. this is why, despite the numbers, i trusted that Anderson didn't really have issues with it. it was rarely brought up in scouting reports, and while overall i'd say numbers > "eye test", sometimes numbers can be misleading and actually seeing a guy can provide clarity or context. i saw no evidence of control issues yesterday. of course, it's only one start.

this is not to say i think Anderson has elite control or anything, but that it's not something i worried about. his control is and always has been just fine.

It's going to take several more starts to be sure as there's no way to tell if that was his normal control of if he just had his good control that day. That being said it was really encouraging. After watching him I'm hopeful that the walk issues he had in the minors were the result of him learning how to handle the movement on his pitches. I'll wait for the data to be sure but it looked like his fastball had a good bit of life and that change had some great movement. So it's entirely possible his walks were the result of him still learning how to keep pitches moving like that in the zone.

So it was an extremely encouraging start and definitely passed the "eye test" you mentioned. Even the BBs he issued weren't bad as he wasn't missing by much. They definitely weren't the Sean Newcomb non-competitive pitch walks we've seen.

Anderson had a 4.03 BB/9 during his time in the minors. For comparison, Touki had a 4.46. Also for comparison, Max Fried had a 4.13. So BBs were a question that needed to (and still needs) to be answered. If you're walking over 4 per 9 it's going to cap your potential. If yesterday was typical, I see him going more Max Fried with his control than Touki.

 

[bravesfanMatt]

source?
and for the record, that doesn't mean cops were justified in shooting him 7 times in that moment. what a twisted view.
i mean if that were case, then your boy...nvm

I hate politics in baseball talks. But I hate the narrative being thrown around about shooting him in back and in front of kids. He was resisting and reached into his car. As a human you don’t know what he is reaching for weapons,keys, getting in car. Who knows. But I don’t envy anyone who is faced with that decision—Someone being no compliment and then reaching into a car for who knows what.

Now unloading a clip into him seems a bit excessive.

 

[Super]

So it was an extremely encouraging start and definitely passed the "eye test" you mentioned. Even the BBs he issued weren't bad as he wasn't missing by much. They definitely weren't the Sean Newcomb non-competitive pitch walks we've seen.

Anderson had a 4.03 BB/9 during his time in the minors. For comparison, Touki had a 4.46. Also for comparison, Max Fried had a 4.13. So BBs were a question that needed to (and still needs) to be answered. If you're walking over 4 per 9 it's going to cap your potential. If yesterday was typical, I see him going more Max Fried with his control than Touki.

this is exactly what i'm saying tho.
Touki and Newk are clearly wild. watch them for a few innings, and even if they don't walk 4 guys, you can tell their pitches are all over. this is exactly why i didn't put any stock into Anderson's control being an issue despite the numbers. no one who watched him apparently thought he had control issues - issues instantly obvious in guys like Newk and Touki. no one ever brought it up. so while it was one game, if he was wild often, i think it would've come up in reports.

now, of course, he's going to go out there and walk 5 in 3 innings on Wednesday.

 

[striker42]

this is exactly what i'm saying tho.
Touki and Newk are clearly wild. watch them for a few innings, and even if they don't walk 4 guys, you can tell their pitches are all over. this is exactly why i didn't put any stock into Anderson's control being an issue despite the numbers. no one who watched him apparently thought he had control issues - issues instantly obvious in guys like Newk and Touki. no one ever brought it up. so while it was one game, if he was wild often, i think it would've come up in reports.

now, of course, he's going to go out there and walk 5 in 3 innings on Wednesday.

Don't you put that evil on him Ricky Bobby!

 

[Southcack77]

this is exactly what i'm saying tho.
Touki and Newk are clearly wild. watch them for a few innings, and even if they don't walk 4 guys, you can tell their pitches are all over. this is exactly why i didn't put any stock into Anderson's control being an issue despite the numbers. no one who watched him apparently thought he had control issues - issues instantly obvious in guys like Newk and Touki. no one ever brought it up. so while it was one game, if he was wild often, i think it would've come up in reports.

now, of course, he's going to go out there and walk 5 in 3 innings on Wednesday.

That was my outlook on it too.

If it was really smoke and mirrors, I think someone would have mentioned it.

It's not like there is a shortage of prospect writers and there is a subset that likes to be contrary and there is a subset that likes analytics and there is a subset that gets the catty gossip from scouts.

Even solid minor league performance and some draft pedigree isn't necessarily going to get you hyped these days.

The biggest concern for me by far was the reluctance of the Braves to throw him out there.

I didn't get to see much of the start and looking at some of the numbers and clips, I understand why folks were not raving about 5 no hit innings.

But -- he competed and didn't walk the world. He showed some good offerings to work with. That's more than half the battle.