GDT 8/30/13: Marlins (Fernandez) @ Braves (Teheran) 7:30

Tonight would have been a good chance to get him some at bats with Justin out. Whatever. Hopefully he can get himself going for September.
 
zitothebrave said:
So he'll be off the playoff roster then huh, interesting. Shame we can't have him get a fake injury instead.
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No he's eligibile for the playoffs. Anyone in the organization by August 31st is eligible for post-season. This is strictly for him to go down there and get some at-bats. The fact there was no corresponding move announced tonight makes me believe they might be close to a trade.
 
Heyward said:
We scored 2 runs off him, so I ended up being right again.

Fernandez was as good as advertised, but I'm negative because I didn't think we'd score 10+ off a guy with an ERA around 2.30
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You said 1-2 runs MAYBE. We scored 2 within the first 3 batters faced. I can guarantee you we will score more than 2 runs on him in the future. To pretend its not a possibility is asinine.
 
tvsportscaster said:
No he's eligibile for the playoffs. Anyone in the organization by August 31st is eligible for post-season. This is strictly for him to go down there and get some at-bats. The fact there was no corresponding move announced tonight makes me believe they might be close to a trade.
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Cunningham can't come back up this soon, can he? Maybe they use an extra reliever since our offense can't score any more than three runs.
 
cajunrevenge said:
You said 1-2 runs MAYBE. We scored 2 within the first 3 batters faced. I can guarantee you we will score more than 2 runs on him in the future. To pretend its not a possibility is asinine.
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Well, it's mainly because of the lineup that was out there.

With Heyward and JUp, probably could of got more but the kid was as good as advertised.

And after those two runs, didn't do all that much the rest of the way.
 
tvsportscaster said:
No he's eligibile for the playoffs. Anyone in the organization by August 31st is eligible for post-season. This is strictly for him to go down there and get some at-bats. The fact there was no corresponding move announced tonight makes me believe they might be close to a trade.
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Think so too, maybe a relief pitcher or another bat possibly.
 
tvsportscaster said:
No he's eligibile for the playoffs. Anyone in the organization by August 31st is eligible for post-season. This is strictly for him to go down there and get some at-bats. The fact there was no corresponding move announced tonight makes me believe they might be close to a trade.
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That's only true with an injury. If everyone position playerwho's on the 25 man now is healthy, he cannot make it.
 
zitothebrave said:
That's only true with an injury. If everyone position playerwho's on the 25 man now is healthy, he cannot make it.
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That's how I interpret it as well, but here's David O'Brien's take: "Gattis’ eligibility for the postseason roster will not be affected. Any player who is a part of an organization as of Aug. 31 is eligible to play with that team in the postseason."

And here are the official eligibility rules:

Post-Season Roster Eligibility

1. All players on a club's MLB Active List (25-man roster) as of midnight (Eastern) on August 31st are eligible to be included on the club's post-season (LDS, LCS, or World Series) 25-man roster. Players who are on an MLB club's Disabled List, Bereavement List, Paternity List, Military List, Suspended List, or Restricted List (Prohibited Substance Suspension or extended Bereavement Leave only) as of midnight (Eastern) on August 31st are also eligible to be included on the club's post-season 25-man roster, but only after spending the minimum number of days required to be served by a player on that list. Players on the Disqualified List, Ineligible List, or Restricted List (for reasons other than extended Bereavement Leave or a Prohibited Substance Suspension) as of midnight August 31st are not eligible. Thus, as long as more than 25 players are eligible, the club's MLB Active List (25-man roster) can be "tweaked" prior to the start of each post-season series.

2. Generally, a post-season eligible player who is on an MLB Disabled List (7-day, 15-day, or 60-day) at the conclusion of the MLB regular season can be replaced on his club's LDS, LCS, or World Series Active List (25-man roster) by any player (regardless of position) who was in the club's organization as of midnight (Eastern) on August 31st, including players acquired from another organization prior to midnight on August 31st and minor leaguers who were not on the club's MLB 40-man roster at that time. Any player who is placed directly onto an MLB 60-day Disabled List after August 1st is NOT eligible to be replaced on a post-season roster (and is not eligible to be reinstated from the 60-day DL and placed onto the club's MLB Active List until 60 days have passed), but a player who is transferred from the 15-day DL to the 60-day DL after August 1st is eligible to be replaced. Players on the Disqualified List, Ineligible List, or Restricted List (for reasons other than extended Bereavement Leave or a Prohibited Substance Suspension) as of midnight (Eastern) on August 31st are not eligible to be a "replacement player." A player who is on a Disabled List or who is serving a Prohibited Substance Suspension cannot be a post-season "replacement player" until the player has served the required minimum number of days (if on a DL) or games (if suspended). If the "replacement player" is on a minor league reserve list, the player must be added to his club's MLB Reserve List (40-man roster) before he can be made eligible for the post-season.

3. A post-season eligible player who is injured prior to the start of a post-season series can (with approval of the MLB Commissioner) be replaced on his club's MLB Active List (25-man roster) for that series by another player (regardless of position) who was in the club's organization as of midnight August 31st, including players acquired from another organizaiton prior to midnight August 31st and minor league players who were not on the club's MLB 40-man roster at that time. Players on the Disqualified List, Ineligible List, or Restricted List (for reasons other than extended Bereavement Leave or a Prohibnited Substance Suspension) as of midnight August 31st are not eligible to be a "replacement player." A player who is on a Disabled List or who is serving a Prohibited Substance Suspension cannot be a post-season "replacement player" until the player has served the required minimum number of days (if on a DL) or games (if suspended). If a replacement player is on a minor league reserve list, the player mustr be added to his club's 40-man roster before he can be made eligible for the post-season.

4. A post-season eligible player who is injured during a post-season series can (with approval of the MLB Commissiner) be replaced on his club's MLB Active List (25-man roster) prior to the conclusion of that series by another player (albeit in this case a pitcher must replace a pitcher and a position player must replace a position player) who was in the club's organization as of midnight August 31st, including players acquired from another organizaton prior to midnight August 31st and minor league players who were not on the club's MLB 40-man at that time. Players on the Disqualified List, Ineligible List, or Restricted List (for reasons other than extended Bereavement Leave or a Prohibnited Substance Suspension) as of midnight August 31st are not eligible to be a "replacement player." A player who is on a Disabled List or who is serving a Prohibited Substance Suspension cannot be a post-season "replacement player" until the player has served the required minimum number of days (if on a DL) or games (if suspended). If a replacement player is on a minor league reserve list, the player mustr be added to his club's 40-man roster before he can be made eligible for the post-season.

5. If an injured pitcher or position player is replaced during a post-season series, the injured pitcher or position player is ineligible to be reinstated to his club's Active List (25-man roster) for the balance of that series and the next series (LCS or World Series).
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Wow, not only does Gattis not start on his night (even with J. Upton out), he also gets demoted right after the game. That's cold, I agree that he needs AB's but I totally disagree with how Fredi has handled this situation (including going back to before his injury).
 
Technically only the players on the 25 man roster at the end of the last day of August are eligible for the playoff roster but if they put one of those 25 players on the DL then anyone who was not signed/traded for in September can replace them. Now there is a giant loophole there because you can DL a player for a headache or any reason and MLB doesnt really care. Unless it was hurt the Yankees, then they would probably go all out for an investigation.
 
I'm happy for Gattis. He should have been in AAA much sooner. Guy still has loads of potential. Just needs to fine tune his approach.
 
cajunrevenge said:
Technically only the players on the 25 man roster at the end of the last day of August are eligible for the playoff roster but if they put one of those 25 players on the DL then anyone who was not signed/traded for in September can replace them. Now there is a giant loophole there because you can DL a player for a headache or any reason and MLB doesnt really care. Unless it was hurt the Yankees, then they would probably go all out for an investigation.
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No according to DOB Gattis is eligible regardless. The rule is anyone in the organization by midnight August 31st is eligible. That is what DOB said in his article about Gattis. The Braves would not have made this move if would make him ineligible for the post-season.
 
tvsportscaster said:
No according to DOB Gattis is eligible regardless. The rule is anyone in the organization by midnight August 31st is eligible. That is what DOB said in his article about Gattis. The Braves would not have made this move if would make him ineligible for the post-season.
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Not disagreeing with you, but I think Dave is wrong here. The rules specifically state the player must be on the 25-man roster on the 31st. Unless I'm just reading them totally wrong.
 
Hawk said:
Not disagreeing with you, but I think Dave is wrong here. The rules specifically state the player must be on the 25-man roster on the 31st. Unless I'm just reading them totally wrong.
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I think they do have to be on the roster, but there are loopholes big enough to drive a truck through, so it is not a problem.
 
mfree80 said:
I think they do have to be on the roster, but there are loopholes big enough to drive a truck through, so it is not a problem.
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Yeah, you are right -- but I still disagree with the AJC's "Any player who is a part of an organization as of Aug. 31 is eligible to play with that team in the postseason" statement. FWIW, it was written by Carroll Rogers, not DOB.
 
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