GDT: 8-4-13 Braves at Phillies (Brooms Ready)

thethe said:
Come on Zito. You always say there is no way to judge the plays he doesn't make so how much are you really using whats actually happening. Even Sickels scouting report of Johnson said he was a good defensive player. now, I don't buy that he is a good one but I think he is average.
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No he said Solid. And as I've stated before Minor league reports are hard to judge on. Johnson is a decent player, but he is terrible with the glove. Yes you're right it's impossible to fully judge how he is but when I watch him play I see a guy who doesn't read thet ball well off the bat, and that's a big flaw. I can't count the number of times I"ve seen him be flatfooted on a ball hit to him.
 
Fan interference outs are the biggest BS

Edit: Before anyone says anything I know this wouldn't be an out. Just speaking in general
 
This is like football, right? Because there's not conclusive evidence to overturn that in my opinion. The ump, saying the ball would've landed in front of the fencing, would be guessing at best.
 
zitothebrave said:
Is he worse than Chipper, maybe not,but should that be our standard? Being not worse than a 40 year old with bad knees who wasn't spectacular when he was healthy and young. Martin Prado isn't a spectacular defensive 3B and he's way better than Johnson can dream of being.
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When people like you act like he's the worst defender in all of baseball and use those stupid advanced stats as your reasoning then yeah I think it's not a bad standard to use. Chipper wasn't a horrible defender either, he made a lot of good plays for us. If Johnson is as good as Chipper was defensively then I'm ok with that. I don't care what his UZJFKEIDKEIE is.
 
zitothebrave said:
No he said Solid. And as I've stated before Minor league reports are hard to judge on. Johnson is a decent player, but he is terrible with the glove. Yes you're right it's impossible to fully judge how he is but when I watch him play I see a guy who doesn't read thet ball well off the bat, and that's a big flaw. I can't count the number of times I"ve seen him be flatfooted on a ball hit to him.
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Problem is that you are going into your viewing with the preconceived notion that he is a bad defensive player so you will interpret most things as negatives. Just my opinion.

Agree to disagree my friend.
 
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